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Baggio



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:02 pm    Post subject: Options in Italy? Reply with quote

Hi folks,

I'm looking to assess my options for teaching in Italy.

I'll give a few details about myself first:

- 28 y/o male, two years previous experience teaching in Korea and China (which I know doesn't count for anything in Italy but regardless) with my girlfriend

- Currently nearing the finish line of an MA in TESOL with the University of Ulster, with 6+ hours of observed teaching practice in Hungarian public schools

- Will be finished MA in September, so want to do as much research as possible on my options for teaching in Italy

- Irish passport so no issue of visas etc

- I'm fully aware you go to Italy as a lifestyle choice rather than to make money, which is perfectly fine. My Italian is sketchy, can read more than I can write or speak however will be making efforts to learn the language

- Rome is out, no real preference for which Italian city, but as a Juventus fan the ideal scenario would be to be as close to Turin as possible! Ha!

- My understanding is that there are more jobs in the south of the country than in the north?

- Know I have to be in the country, have feet on the ground etc.


Any comments/advice will be greatly appreciated!


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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]- Currently nearing towards the finish line of an MA in TESOL with the University of Ulster, with 6+ hours of observed teaching practice in Hungarian public schools

- Will be finished MA in September, so want to do as much research as possible on my options for teaching in Italy

- Irish passport so no issue of visa's etc

- I'm fully aware you go to Italy as a lifestyle choice rather than to make money, which is perfectly fine. My Italian is sketchy, can read more than I can write or speak however will be making efforts to learn the language

- Rome is out, no real preference for which Italian city, but as a Juventus fan the ideal scenario would be to be as close to Turin as possible! Ha!

- My understanding is that their is more jobs in the south of the country than in the north?
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Please allow me to gently, respectfully point out that there are people around here on Dave's who hire. You give enough information about yourself here for a DOS/other hiring entity to identify you. It's really a pretty good idea here to take the time to make sure you're making a solid impression regarding your own command of English grammar. Don't get me wrong; I assume that you must be pretty good in reality, otherwise you wouldn't be an MA degree candidate, but the above post doesn't showcase your skills well.

Otherwise, I can note that the main hiring period is September, so you'll want to time your job search. You are probably also aware that you are likely NOT to find a dream job right off the bat, but if you are willing to commit to the area and pay some dues, you do have the quals to work your way up the ladder.
It will also help with employers if you show some awareness of how students are likely to be different from those where you've taught before - we can probably help a bit with that if you're not entirely clued-in.

Sorry to be pedantic on the above, but these details can actually matter on a relatively tight job market like those in Italy and Europe in general.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird - my comments appear in the quote box above and I can't seem to reverse this! Anyway, I'll take credit and blame for the text in the quote box above.

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Baggio



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi spiral,

I appreciate the feedback, I'm currently a bit sick so my brain isn't really working at full capacity. Haha. But I see your point.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I assumed you were at less than your peak. Hope you'll feel better soon! The good news is that you're likely to find something reasonable in Italy in September:-)
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Baggio



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

Spiral would you recommend going to Italy in late August/early September? I'm imagining you'd need to have a city in mind before then?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The earlier the better, but in my experience Italians won't be much around or doing business in August. Teacher in Rome should appear pretty soon; her knowledge is more on the ground than mine - I am speaking from a different part of Europe, but have worked with Italian partners for almost 15 years now so I have a couple of vicarious clues at least.
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, I rarely check in here these days, but something compelled me to look in this evening. And here you are Spiral!!

Baggio - Spiral is spot on. September is the peak hiring period, so it definitely makes sense (money permitting) to get here late Aug / early Sept to suss out the schools, make contact, leave your CV, etc.

Why is Rome out? Oh well, never mind, there are plenty of jobs in Milan, and with your quals, you should at least appear higher than entry level. Do you have any business English experience - either teaching or gained through work? That would probably be worth talking up in your CV. There are a lot of outfits hiring people with those sorts of skills. Milan is also relatively close to Turin, so easy enough to get to the matches.

Don't worry too much about sketchy Italian - it will come soon enough!

Keep an eye out for jobs on tefl.com as there are lots of postings for N Italy. Remember that you might have to do a few hours here and a few hours there at the outset, but things should improve in time. You could also do worse than put ads in listings sites as schools sometimes also look there for teachers.

Good luck!
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Baggio



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Spiral, TIR,

Thanks for the advice. I don't know why I'm specifically cancelling out Rome, I've been to Rome a couple of times and never been enchanted with the city like with Florence say. But I also imagined living in the capital would be a lot more expensive?

Also wouldn't really be fussed on Milan, been there enough times and never taken to the city, but I imagine at such a low level I can't really be picky when it comes to jobs can I?

Also, I can't drive, would this be a disadvantage for a lot of jobs or just the ones in smaller cities?

What city/cities are the most realistic options TIR?
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