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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject: Salary of Dialog |   |  
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				| This company are offering 45000 rubles net per month plus free housing or 18000 roubles allowance. I checked and this is £500 per month. Why are the salaries so low in Russia then? |  | 
	
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:01 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| mingdynasty is a troll.  Don't waste your time. 
 http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=113618
 
 In this incarnation in the past 24 hours alone, he's posted in Poland, UAE, Japan, and now this board.  He's not serious; he just wants to suck people into long conversations for his own amusement.  He's been banned umpteen times already in 2016.
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		| mingdynasty 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:34 pm    Post subject: no |   |  
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				| Just ignore the last poster 
 This company are offering 45000 rubles net per month plus free housing or 18000 roubles allowance. I checked and this is £500 per month. Why are the salaries so low in Russia then?
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Sure, if you are happy to waste time and energy on a troll, that's your choice   
 My only motivation is to warn honest people that this isn't a genuine request for info from a real would-be teacher possibly going to Russia, as s/eh portrays him/herself.
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		| mingdynasty 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:10 pm    Post subject: no |   |  
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				| Just ignore the last poster. I'm an honest poster seeking advice. 
 This company are offering 45000 rubles net per month plus free housing or 18000 roubles allowance. I checked and this is £500 per month. Why are the salaries so low in Russia then?
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		| nomad soul 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Bona fide troll seeking advice |   |  
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	  | mingdynasty wrote: |  
	  | This company are offering 45000 rubles net per month plus free housing or 18000 roubles allowance. I checked and this is £500 per month. Why are the salaries so low in Russia then? |  Because it ain't the Gulf.
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		| maruss 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:48 pm    Post subject: Suggest you read the news about Russias economy etc... |   |  
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				| No it's not much and you won't have a great life there earning that kind of money.....but many Russians earn far less, so use your imagination! It's not the place to go right now so why not explre other options?
 This is genuine good advice and well meant.
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		| maruss 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:03 am    Post subject: Just for comparison... |   |  
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				| I know a qualified Russian girl around 30 who teaches English at government colleges in a small town in Moscow region:she gets around 38.000 roubles per month,sometimes a bit more,sometimes less,depending on the number of working days each month,bonuses etc.For this she is also expected to teach in another town about 25 kms away twice a week and make her own photocopies at home and do lesson preparation etc.They don't pay for the paper or her bus fares and she gives 10.000 roubles per month for her room and meals at a relatives place-they are retired and have very low pensions so need the extra cash from her.She is lucky compared with other people in the town who earn much less or are unemployed,so I will leave it to your imagination what quality of life and living standards they have there?? Believe you me there are far worse places- and not that far from Moscow!
 So by comparison the job you saw advertised pays well-very much so by Russian standards,especially if it includes accomodation in Moscow but it is hard for a foreigner who hasn't experienced life there to understand what it is really like to live in Russia.Until a few years ago,people in cities lived quite well,especially what we would call the 'middle clases' and in Moscow these were around 40% of the people there-they had cars,modern appartments and could afford holidays abroad etc,even though basic commodities such as food was always expensive compared to their earnings.Things have now changed a lot and Russians cope by tightening their belts and buying only essentials-this is how they have learned to  survive throughout all the economic and political upheavals and perhaps explains why they don't complain as much as we would in the west about things,until they reach breaking point,when all hell is let looose!
 You can see the latest wikileaks revelations about Putin and co. who rule the place and frankly nobody there is surprised because they know how things have always been in Russia:either the Tsar and the aristo crats and then the rest of the people,then the Communist elite and the rest of the people....and since then the ruling mafia elite and the rest of the population!!By all means go and experience it-it's interesting,fascinating and life-changing trip.....but don't go expecting to make money or be welcomed with open arms because you won't be!In deed many people will wonder why you came when the majority of them would give anything to go and live and work abroad if they found a chance,even more so nowadays!Hope this helps!
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		| Partizan 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Just for comparison... |   |  
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	  | maruss wrote: |  
	  | I know a qualified Russian girl around 30 who teaches English at government colleges in a small town in Moscow region:she gets around 38.000 roubles per month,sometimes a bit more,sometimes less,depending on the number of working days each month,bonuses etc.For this she is also expected to teach in another town about 25 kms away twice a week and make her own photocopies at home and do lesson preparation etc.They don't pay for the paper or her bus fares and she gives 10.000 roubles per month for her room and meals at a relatives place-they are retired and have very low pensions so need the extra cash from her.She is lucky compared with other people in the town who earn much less or are unemployed,so I will leave it to your imagination what quality of life and living standards they have there?? Believe you me there are far worse places- and not that far from Moscow!
 So by comparison the job you saw advertised pays well-very much so by Russian standards,especially if it includes accomodation in Moscow but it is hard for a foreigner who hasn't experienced life there to understand what it is really like to live in Russia.Until a few years ago,people in cities lived quite well,especially what we would call the 'middle clases' and in Moscow these were around 40% of the people there-they had cars,modern appartments and could afford holidays abroad etc,even though basic commodities such as food was always expensive compared to their earnings.Things have now changed a lot and Russians cope by tightening their belts and buying only essentials-this is how they have learned to  survive throughout all the economic and political upheavals and perhaps explains why they don't complain as much as we would in the west about things,until they reach breaking point,when all hell is let looose!
 You can see the latest wikileaks revelations about Putin and co. who rule the place and frankly nobody there is surprised because they know how things have always been in Russia:either the Tsar and the aristo crats and then the rest of the people,then the Communist elite and the rest of the people....and since then the ruling mafia elite and the rest of the population!!By all means go and experience it-it's interesting,fascinating and life-changing trip.....but don't go expecting to make money or be welcomed with open arms because you won't be!In deed many people will wonder why you came when the majority of them would give anything to go and live and work abroad if they found a chance,even more so nowadays!Hope this helps!
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 This post should serve as a wake up call to anyone thinking of moving to Russia to teach English in the current economic climate. The good 'ol days are well and truly over. Unless you have been living in Russia with already exisiting & well established contacts and/or get a job offer with a respected company paying 100k RUB and upwards, give it a miss. Hit the Gulf instead.
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