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nomad soul
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 Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| 7969 wrote: |
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| balex wrote: |
| Just it case, they provide accommodation. Without it I would never even think about that offer. |
"Just in case" what? Accommodation is employer provided. Period. |
Clearly (to me at least) balex meant the job provided accommodation. Period. No need to be pedantic, is there? |
I'm not being pedantic. I'm pointing out that the OP didn't state there were conditions in the contract related to housing, unless there's something she/he failed to mention. |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| 7969 wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| balex wrote: |
| Just it case, they provide accommodation. Without it I would never even think about that offer. |
"Just in case" what? Accommodation is employer provided. Period. |
Clearly (to me at least) balex meant the job provided accommodation. Period. No need to be pedantic, is there? |
I'm not being pedantic. I'm pointing out that the OP didn't state there were conditions in the contract related to housing, unless there's something she/he failed to mention. |
I don't think Balex failed to mention anything.
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| the company offers accommodation, so I am good with it. |
| balex wrote: |
| Just it case, they provide accommodation. Without it I would never even think about that offer. |
When someone posts that the offer provides accommodation they mean it includes a place to stay and it will be in the contract. What else could this possibly mean?
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| I think there were about 200,000 people in Macau a decade ago, and now there are like a million (pretty much all from the mainland) |
The last time Macau's population was 200,000 Elvis was still a private in the US army. The population today is only 580,000, up from 420,000 when the Mainland regained control in '99. I have read that almost half the population (those older than 40) was actually born in the mainland and the majority of young people are Macau-born. It's true there are many Mainlanders working in Macau, but they don't actually live there, instead commuting back to Zhuhai at day's end (although many companies provide a dorm for workers who don't want to go back every night). |
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Jmbf
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Living costs in Macau are roughly on par with Hong Kong - e.g. relatively expensive. 10-12K with accommodation provided is survivable but don't expect much in the way of savings, 'luxury' imported western goods / food or travelling. It will be frugal-city for you. Will it be worth it to you for the experience gained? That's only for you to decide. |
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sistercream
Joined: 18 Dec 2010
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Location: Pearl River Delta
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Rent in Macau is still MUCH cheaper than in Hong Kong, but utilities are more expensive. Eating "local" is only about two thirds the price of Hong Kong, and local supermarkets like Royal, Seng Cheong and San Miu are also noticeably cheaper. And even if you do need to get to somewhere you can't walk to, the buses are also heaps cheaper than HK (specially with a MacauPass).
OP, I have worked for the company which is offering you a job (in Hong Kong), and let's just say that I wouldn't do it again. Another poster on these boards and I did give more unvarnished details more than once, but in each instance the thread was removed. I chose to stick it out in order to get my feet back on the ground here in HK, and if it is important to you to get established in the region, you could use it as a stepping stone.
Yes, you would get paid, but JK hasn't been in Macau long, and I don't know how much experience they have in dealing with the visa legalities there (you might want to ask them if they have employed any foreigners there before, and if so, how long did the blue card issue take). The law basically says that an employer must employ at least one local for every imported worker they apply for.
Once upon a time, the authorities there used to accept that if you had applied for your work permit you were OK to start working, but that is no longer the case; if you don't want to get caught in a raid (because your employer was late in paying off the appropriate people), you really do need the work permit in hand before you start the job. It is NOT legally OK to be employed in Hong Kong and then "seconded" to Macau. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| sistercream wrote: |
I have worked for the company which is offering you a job (in Hong Kong), and let's just say that I wouldn't do it again.
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I chose to stick it out in order to get my feet back on the ground here in HK, and if it is important to you to get established in the region, you could use it as a stepping stone. |
Good point about sticking it out (on a proper visa) and using the experience as a foot in the door toward something better. It's not uncommon for that first TEFL job to fall under the category of "meh."  |
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