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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Just to comment on one of HontoBakari's comments...
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| 2) Nova apartments DO cost more than equivalent non-Nova apartments. That�s because you�re not only paying for the rent but also the furnishings, the utilities, the deposits, the convenience, and the staff the Nova must maintain to ensure that all incoming teachers have a place to live. |
The deposits have been paid ages ago, so in my book that doesn't even figure into the equation.
The convenience? What convenience? Just having one available? Not enough to warrant any added expense, especially considering that NOVA has thousands of employees coming and going, and their apartments have been sitting in the same plot of land for years.
Staff? C'mon. Same as above.
Furnishings? Hey, they are probably as old as the textbooks!
All you are really paying for is the rent and utilities. If there is some hidden costs involved, let's hear about them from NOVA. I suspect you won't hear such a story, and that all you will hear is that they charge 70,000 yen/month just because this is an "average" rent across the country. |
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HontoBakari
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
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To restate for Glenski's benefit:
MOVE OUT OF YOUR NOVA APARTMENT IF YOU DON'T FEEL IT IS WORTH THE PRICE.
I had hoped that that would be recognized as the key point. And yes, we are talking about the convenience of having a furnished place to live from the day you arrive in Japan. I hardly think that a 22-23 year old who has never traveled overseas before would be in much of a position to secure their own housing before arrival. I, for one, was very relieved to know that I would have a place to stay when I got to Japan.[/quote] |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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To restate for Glenski's benefit:
MOVE OUT OF YOUR NOVA APARTMENT IF YOU DON'T FEEL IT IS WORTH THE PRICE.
I had hoped that that would be recognized as the key point. |
Sorry, but it wasn't that obvious to me.
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| And yes, we are talking about the convenience of having a furnished place to live from the day you arrive in Japan. I hardly think that a 22-23 year old who has never traveled overseas before would be in much of a position to secure their own housing before arrival. |
You don't seem to have gotten my point. Practically every eikaiwa provides housing. They don't inflate prices just because Joe College is fresh off the boat and looking for a place to stay. Look at it another way. To pay 70,000 for a place is about average throughout the country. Ok, so paying that much to SHARE is a ripoff, but that is another point. |
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worldwidealive
Joined: 03 Mar 2004
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| The complaints and exaggerations made me smirk. |
You probably should have kept smirking.  Although I agree with many of your points, you never win with these arguments about Nova. I quit trying long ago.
There is one truth about Nova (that you made clear) and it is that they make a lot of offerings to their instructors that can be viewed as a ripoff. However, they are more than accepting if you want to move out of their apartment (or not take it in the first place), not take their insurance, not sign for their cell phone, etc. They never mislead you that you have to accept these things. They may encourage, but not mislead.
After all, AEON makes you, yes MAKES, you take their apartments. You pay for it no matter what. I still hold that Nova's mistake is not in having expensive apartments, but in having expensive apartments that they put 3 strangers into. Less people would search out other options if their apartment wasn't a revolving door of freaks, social morons, charisma men, and/or culture shocked, homesick hopefuls. It is good most of the hired are straight out of university, because they will still feel like they are living in the dorms.
If you choose their options, fail to educate yourself first, and then feel like you got ripped off after the fact, please don't cry foul to the world. We are all adults, are we not? |
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