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Makkah
Joined: 08 Oct 2014 Posts: 113
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:22 am Post subject: Re: ma or phd in linguistics |
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| lion101 wrote: |
| I would say good money and good teaching hours. |
Don't know if you are male but the good money places are Saudi Aramco....but they are not recruiting at the moment (1 year contract that can be renewed if you are good enough). After that you could try BaE (2 year contract).
Just make sure you have CELTA or DELTA and a Degree. Then just get your resume out there. |
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In the heat of the moment

Joined: 22 May 2015 Posts: 393 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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It may be quite common to go directly from a BA to MA to PhD, but with no experience teaching overseas I foresee a significant waste of time and resources if you go that route, then find the expat life is not for you. That happens, a lot; teachers go overseas and after a year (or less) find it's not their bag and return home for good.
That's good advice from nomad soul, I'd go further and say aim for Korea. You only need an online TEFL certificate to work there, and (provided you go to a good school, not a burn-out inducing hagwon) that should give you some good experiences in a classroom. If after a year you still want to progress to an MA (not necessarily necessary in Saudi) you can either get another year in Korea under your belt, or do a CELTA and then you have more choices of country, or do the MA then.
The more experience you have, the better you'll be prepared for Saudi. It isn't like Mecca in the rest of the country, the students will be unlike anything you've experienced unless you've known Saudi expats well, and you can't be online or IRL saying negative things about the government, Royals, religion or Saudi in general when you're here either. BTW I don't hate any of them, what they do with their lives is nothing to do with me.
Ultimately you need to gain a lot of maturity before stepping foot in the Magic Kingdom, nothing against you personally but older and more experienced faculty are usually more comfortable with the restrictive life here. The choice of BA/MA is secondary to that, I've worked with teachers with an MA in photography, applied linguistics, an MBA, teaching certification, and others. What you learn on a teaching or linguistics course and what you actually do in a Saudi classroom can be very different. The experience in teaching you gain before you arrive will hold you in good stead, the certificate is more a visa and salary issue. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| hash wrote: |
| Incidentally, you don't study "Linguistics" to become a translator (you might take a course in it, but you don't major in it). |
I think you might want to widen your definition of "translator". I have many friends doing translation worldwide and almost all of them have tertiary qualifications in some form of Linguistics.
But if you're into translating Harry Potter into Swahili, then a Linguistics MA is overkill. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: ma or phd in linguistics |
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mashkif
Joined: 17 Aug 2010 Posts: 178
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: ma or phd in linguistics |
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| lion101 wrote: |
| Would a ma or phd in linguistics be sufficient for the "good" jobs or does it have to be in applied linguistics. I ask this because a lot of the job postings say applied linguistics but most of the graduate programs I see in the U.S. are in Linguistics. |
A "Ph.D." in "linguistics"!?! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! Excuse me while I have a fit of giggles...
*snicker*
I personally have mostly disdain for social "sciences," but "doctorates" in linguistics, education, gender "studies," and the like simultaneously push my buttons and make me chortle in way no comedic endeavor ever did. One thing's for sure: I have zero respect for them and, whenever I was on a hiring committee, gave them a wide berth.
Give me three years' experience in a good classroom over a "doctorate" in B.S. any day of the week. |
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