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creeper1 · Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 4:40 am Post subject:

Huge LOL!

I work for this company and the schools you are placed in aren't "all over Beijing". They are usually very close to each other - the clue is in the name - you know CHAOYANG DISTRICT - that means chaoyang district not haidian not Fengtai etc etc.

There is nothing extraordinary or impressive about the OP's qualifications. The advantage he would have had IF he had of accepted this job would have been plenty of free time to earn money with privates at the weekend and evenings.

Universities in Beijing pay PEANUTS as far as I can see.

So OP you are out of luck and may have to take some garbage like EF　for 14000 a month WITHOUT accomodation.

Please not that training schools such as EF and wall street (while working you like a dog) TAKE AWAY ALL YOUR EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS. Laughing

Seriously just go to Korea. No worries about accomodation there.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

Jmbf · Joined: 29 Jun 2014 Posts: 663

OP, given your experience and qualifications, I honestly don't think you can command 20K+ jobs (yet). Those positions are usually reserved for those a bit further along their 'career path'. Approx 17-18K without accommodation would be survivable in Beijing BUT the conditions referred to in your current potential job do sound a bit dodgy and at the very least require clarification.

The way I see it you have a couple of potential options:

1. Find another employer willing to pay at least 17-18K without accom (and with a straightforward contract - no tricky clauses!)
2. Find another employer offering 13-14K plus accom
2. Find a school / uni job for less pay (e.g. 7-8K plus accom) but then be prepared to top that up with private students

Which option you go for will depend on your own preferences for accommodation, working conditions, savings level and your confidence in your own ability to build up your own private student base.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

(and rare on this forum)
The reason is that China is huge, employers come and go and average tenure of FTs is about 16 months.
Of necessity most comments are generic rather than a result of specific experience of an employer queried by an OP.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

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Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Often OPs put only the minimum amount of information up.
In particular they omit the killer condition, which is housing.
In big centres like BJ, SH and GZ this is becoming more important by the day.

chuckMC · Joined: 15 Apr 2015 Posts: 75

Hey, Creepers, you mentioned that you work for this company. Are they worth working for? How many hours do they offer you ? How much do you get paid for winter holidays? Any information you can give me would be great. I am still considering working for this company. By the way, NS, there is no accommodation offered by this company. I plan to rent a room for 1,500 rmb. There's a good rental website that has offers that only the Chinese use.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

There are similar sites for sharing with expats.
I posted a link recently.
There was a post also from someone sharing with Chinese who smoked, yelled, farted and avoided cleanliness as a lifestyle.
I think at least being able to remonstrate against bad behaviour IN ENGLISH, would avoid problems.
Best

LarssonCrew · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308

You're working in Chaoyang, the most expensive part of Beijing to rent.

1500 won't get you anything.

A single bed apartment in a non farmer building will probably cost you 6-7 if you get a good deal, when I was considering offers from Beijing I was weighing up paying 8000.

If you're above the age of 24-25 you're not in college anymore and sharing becomes weird, at least for me.

I think a 2 bed was about 9000, so you might find a room for 4000 or so, perhaps you can get a 3 bed for 10 so you'd be paying 3300 or so.

Also, if you do find something for 1500, then it'll be in the sticks and you'll need a large commute to get to work. If you begin at 8 you may be having to walk out your door at 6:30 what with Beijings packed subway and having to change lines.

Remember that you spend a large % of your time at home, so I think it's worth spending a bit more. I'm moving to a Tier 3 city and budgeting 2500, a small increase from the 'low level' means it'll have a nice community, better standard of furnishings, more likely to have fast internet and the people will probably be less farmer.

Also, if you live in an expensive/high end place in a smaller city there are always good chances for private classes.

creeper1 · Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:44 am Post subject:

LarssonCrew · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308

So over 36 hours a week of yiur time. Less than 100rmb an hour after tax (I assume it's about 15 after tax and that's upper end. )

That's 15k in your pocket. Not horrendous but 8-315 is almost 9-5.

Even sharing a room with 4 others (!!!!) is 3000 plus after bills. You're left with 12.

I've seen uni jobs paying 12 after tax with free apartment for 15 hours a week but I guess it's rare.

You won't feel like doing a lot of pt work if you're up at 530 every morning.

Still for a newbie if you get 17000 it may be ok.

I'm not sure how old you are but at my age ;late 20s non smoker) I would hate to have to share.

Jmbf · Joined: 29 Jun 2014 Posts: 663