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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:19 am Post subject: re Jon and Gulezar |
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The particular woman I'm thinking of had been in ESL. According to pals in other opcos, it isn't unusual to find ex EFL females in good positions at HQ and some who are even still teaching. If you don't work in the oil industry, don't comment on it.
And Gulezar, everyone here is worried about jobs. HCT is the one that gets the headlines here but the oil jobs have been going too. Fortunately for me, recent news has meant that I'm safe for some time to come.
14 k is pants in the UAE as is the 19k offer with no housing, discussed recently.
I've just been to the beach. 75 to get on it, 25 each way in a cab. So me and the other half have done 200 just going to sit on a beach. Bottle of water there 10 each. Was in a bar 2 nights ago where each beer was 35. Did brunch with the missus 2 weeks ago (our first here) and did 1,300 that day. You have to live here, not just rent some tiny non-tawtheek room and count your pennies earning shite, going nuts and becoming a pain to your colleagues. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: re Jon and Gulezar |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| The particular woman I'm thinking of had been in ESL. According to pals in other opcos, it isn't unusual to find ex EFL females in good positions at HQ and some who are even still teaching. |
And over the years, I've heard of a couple women being hired at Aramco. Very nice for that handful of women... BUT...
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If you don't work in the oil industry, don't comment on it.
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And perhaps if you don't work in normal EFL where 99+% of women teach, you shouldn't denigrate the pay and normal situation for them.
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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"There are females in the Human Talent HQs of oil companies, some of whom have very high positions."
"Hmm, somehow I missed the part where they are teaching EFL"
"f you don't work in the oil industry, don't comment on it. "
Has Dave died and left you in charge? When I want orders from you about what I can and can't comment on, I'll let you know. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:06 pm Post subject: erm |
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| 14 k is an awful salary in the UAE. ADEC pays 21 plus housing , ADVETI at least 19, oil companies around the 30 mark. So talking a salary down is hardly denigrating anything. 14k is just a very low offer. Fact! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what Footprints is offering:
Salary: $3,300-$5,500 USD/month
Included Benefits: Accomodation in a private apartment (1 to 3 bedrooms, depending on family size), Return Airfare and Health insurance - both for you and your family,
Paid Vacation (2 months + national holidays), - all of these extras are covered by the employer as part of your contract.
And TeachAway (for licensed teachers_
Start Date: May 2016
Contract Length: 2 years
Eligible Candidates: Licensed Teacher
Student Level: Gr. 1, Gr. 2, Gr. 3, Gr. 4, Gr. 5, Gr. 6
Monthly Salary: USD 2500 - 3800
Accommodation: Support Finding Housing
Airfare Reimbursement: Full
Airfare Description: Yearly return flight is provided for the teacher.
Health Insurance Provided: Yes
Health insurance Description: National health insurance is provided.
Qualifications & Requirements
Required Certificates: Teaching Credential/License
Level of Education Required: Bachelor
Minimum Teaching Experience: 2 Years
Major: Bachelor of Education or relevant area plus a Post Grad in Primary Education
Additional Requirements:
Overseas experience is desirable.
Regards,
John |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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However, the OP isn't even a teacher. She/he has a PhD in School Psychology. Plus, that 14,000 AED is for a bilingual Arabic-English guidance counselor who holds a BA in academic counseling. No mention of an MA, PhD or degree in psychology. The OP was just curious about the pay.
Anyway, the position will likely be filled by an Emirati or resident expat already on a spouse visa. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dear nomad,
Just thought I'd post a rough idea of what most teachers can/should expect over there in terms of salary/benefits.
Regards,
John |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:07 am Post subject: erm |
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| I'm in the UAE. People have been PMing me and they are welcome to continue. |
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Gulezar
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: re Jon and Gulezar |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| You have to live here, not just rent some tiny non-tawtheek room and count your pennies earning shite, going nuts and becoming a pain to your colleagues. |
I'm glad that you are not talking about me because:
I do live in Abu Dhabi
I do not rent some tiny non-tawtheek room
I don't count my pennies
I don't earn shite
I am not going nuts
I don't think that I'm a pain to my colleagues
If the job offer asks for a BA, most employers will only pay the salary for a BA. 14,000 AED is where I started at Zayed University, with similar benefits, and I could live all right on that. However, that was a few years back.
Abu Dhabi is expensive, but even though the OP will never have a chance at the big bucks of the oil field, at least she will be able to get into lady's nights at Coopers and free films at the Space for a while. I suppose that would be considered "counting ones pennies." Abu Dhabi has a lot to offer those who have a beer budget, but of course there are venues for champagne tastes, too. |
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izmigari
Joined: 04 Feb 2016 Posts: 197 Location: Rubbing shoulders with the 8-Ball in the top left pocket
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