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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had a look at Daijob? https://www.daijob.com/en/

You may not be qualified for the jobs listed there (you need to be at least bilingual), but you can see the job market trends.

You'd need at least JLPT N2 to work in a lot of fields here. You said you'd aim for next year, after N3. It sounds like a reasonable goal.

You need to upgrade or get certification in your field? I'm looking at Athabasca University (Canada) and some Australian programs.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22 wrote:
From what I have seen, is that the applicant per job is pretty low, ratio wise. So Japan really just needs workers in general. From what I have seen it looks like the N2 alone with college, and work experience will unlock doors for me. I know I will never be a seishain again, but to get out of teaching English, I have to give up something.

TokyoLiz wrote:
You need to upgrade or get certification in your field?

That's the reality that many overseas teachers face worldwide if they expect to transit out of TESOL and compete for non-teaching jobs. They'll need to upgrade their education and/or update their skills. Those who have slowly integrated new skills and knowledge throughout their teaching career tend to make that transition quicker, especially if they researched other opportunities and trends thoroughly.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
Have you had a look at Daijob? https://www.daijob.com/en/

You may not be qualified for the jobs listed there (you need to be at least bilingual), but you can see the job market trends.

You'd need at least JLPT N2 to work in a lot of fields here. You said you'd aim for next year, after N3. It sounds like a reasonable goal.

You need to upgrade or get certification in your field? I'm looking at Athabasca University (Canada) and some Australian programs.


Yes, this is where I get some hope. Daijob seems to have a decent amount of jobs for people with an N2 and so e college.


Nomad, you are right, one does need skills or the ability to work in their new country. I do have 6 or so years of purchasing experience, which I hope coupled with the N2, will make me hire able.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22 wrote:
Nomad, you are right, one does need skills or the ability to work in their new country. I do have 6 or so years of purchasing experience, which I hope coupled with the N2, will make me hire able.

I suggest you look at current job postings relevant to purchasing to see what employers expect --- use that as your guide. Your challenge is customizing your CV to make you look less like an English teacher and more like a purchasing specialist. So if your knowledge and skills are dated (i.e., you haven't used them for some time) or lacking in some areas, consider doing a free or cheapie MOOC via Coursera, edX, FutureLearn, Udacity, Udemy, etc. There's also Lynda.com, which is a good site for updating techie, business, and creative skills. (Having young children at home doesn't make learning impossible.)
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked part-time doing retail until recently (had to quit as I changed jobs to a different haken for my main job). If you want to work retail and become seishain, get N2, choose a foreign store and apply to work there part-time and at some point (probably soon, if you make it known) they'll offer you a managerial job (which probably makes less than 250k a month including bonuses).

You have to figure out what you want to do. Then you have to collect job ads for that type of job, and figure out what skills they need, and see where you are (hint: use the time now to get the skills you don't have). For example, say you want to be a translator. You find 5 ads and see what is common to all 5 - say they all say you need to know Trados (not uncommon). This is something you really need to know (all 5 of the job ads you saw asked for it), so you need to figure it out (or come up with a good reason why you can't).

For teaching, almost nobody ever asks about your career plans - this is something they ask in non-teaching interviews and I have messed up interviews because of that question.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nomad, you are right, I can get a cert of some sort. I was only oppsed to getting a Java or other IT cert, as that'd take a massive amount of time. But smaller things, I can swing.

Inflames, great advice, and thank you. I need to have all my carts lined up, I can't have half assed answers for interviews. I need to have answers ready, and be able to make them want to hire me. Talking my self out of a decent job is what I don't want to do/
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