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nomad soul

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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:00 am Post subject: Month of Ramadan expected to start June 6, 2016 |
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Ramadan 2016: All you need to know
By Martin Fullard, Gulf News | June 3, 2016
Source: http://gulfnews.com/guides/life/ramadan/features/ramadan-2016-all-you-need-to-know-1.1528649
(Edited to cover Ramadan for non-Muslims. Click on the link above for the full article, including the religious significance for Muslims.)
Ramadan is the ninth month of the Hijri (Islamic) calendar. This year, according to the Gregorian calendar, Ramadan starts on June 6 and ends after 29 or 30 days. Eid Al Fitr is the annual three-day celebration after the last day of Ramadan and it is considered a public holiday. The government will announce the exact holiday dates nearer the time.
Adult Muslims are required to fast from dawn until dusk every day throughout Ramadan. Fast may be broken at sunset before Maghrib prayers after ‘Azaan’ (call for prayers). This occurs just after sunset. Dates are traditionally the first food to be eaten each evening. The fast-breaking meal is called Iftar.
Ramadan for non-Muslims
While Muslims don’t expect non-Muslims to fast as well, it remains important to show respect. Most of the following points apply to the rest of the year too, but are even more important to adhere to during Ramadan:
- Do not eat, drink, or smoke in public during the fasting hours (from dawn until dusk). This includes chewing gum.
- Do not engage in any aggressive behaviour.
- Do not dance or play music in public. You may listen to music quietly with headphones.
- Dress respectfully.
- Do not swear. Blasphemy is considered extra offensive during Ramadan.
- Do not refuse a gift, from a simple date to something more exotic, you should accept it. Further, you should not refuse an invitation to join someone at Iftar.
The penalty for not following the above etiquette can vary, with community service normally being favoured.
If you are not fasting, you are free to eat and drink in the privacy of your own home, as well as in designated areas. Ask your employer where you can eat your lunch. The same goes with smoking. Some restaurants and cafes will be open during the day; you are free to frequent these. Food can be taken out and consumed in private.
Work hours: The standard work-day is reduced by two hours for all employees across all sectors, regardless of whether you are observing Ramadan or not. Check with your employer.
Grocery shopping: Supermarkets are open as usual.
Driving: There’s no denying the fact that driving during the day, particularly between 5pm and Iftar, is hazardous. Some fasting taxi drivers may have been working longer than they should have been and as a result they may be dehydrated and lacking the ability to concentrate properly. Only drive in the afternoon if you absolutely have to.
Booking a taxi: If you are heading out around the Iftar time, then be advised that booking a taxi may not be so easy. A lot of drivers will be breaking the fast, so availability may be difficult.
Going out for dinner: If you are planning on going out for Iftar then you should book a table in advance. Restaurants are understandably busy during Ramadan evenings.
Going to the mall: While a lot of businesses change their hours for Ramadan, malls remain generally open during the day – with the exception of food courts and restaurants. Some restaurants may remain open, but this will seldom be advertised.
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paul.conlong
Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Rochdale, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Hello NS,
From your experience, what are the students like during this period assuming classes are still operating during ramadan. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:41 am Post subject: |
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paul.conlong wrote: |
From your experience, what are the students like during this period assuming classes are still operating during ramadan. |
Since there's no fixed yearly date for Ramadan, classes still go on depending on when/if Ramadan falls during a school term.
I've only taught during Ramadan twice and in two countries; both experiences were different but not too much of a challenge in regard to getting through the lessons. In KSA, my class was held in the morning only, so my students were lethargic from being up all night. However, they were still motivated to learn. (I had science and math foundation year students.) I included more of their favorite activities to keep them uber engaged. I also personally did my best to refrain from mentioning food/eating unless it was relevant to the lesson. But that didn't stop the girls from talking about food despite fasting.
In another Mid East country, we had split shifts during Ramadan. That year, the term ended just two weeks into the start of the month. I taught from 8-10:30am and then again at night from 8-10:30pm, while some of my colleagues had classes until midnight. My morning students were a bit low on energy but still focused. By contrast, the evening class was hyper from eating, especially after consuming a lot of sugary treats. They kept bringing me overly-sweet cake and chocolates, which I would politely set aside "for later." I had to incorporate specific activities that burned off their energy and kept their enthusiasm at bay. I probably would have been exhausted if I'd had to teach that schedule for the entire 8-week session.  |
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MI6agent
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 87 Location: Dark Web
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Month of Ramadan expected to start June 6, 2016 |
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Ramadan for non-Muslims
While Muslims don’t expect non-Muslims to fast as well, it remains important to show respect. Most of the following points apply to the rest of the year too, but are even more important to adhere to during Ramadan:
- Do not eat, drink, or smoke in public during the fasting hours (from dawn until dusk). This includes chewing gum.
The penalty for not following the above etiquette can vary, with community service normally being favoured. |
The penalty for non-Muslim expat found eating and drinking in public during Ramadan is not community service, it is deportation from the Magic Kingdom.
"The Interior Ministry has warned that it would deport non-Muslim expatriates found eating and drinking in public during Ramadan"
"Non-Muslim expatriates should respect the feelings of Muslims by not eating, drinking or smoking in public places such as streets and workplaces. They should not think that they are exempted from this because they are followers of other faiths," the ministry said in a statement.
The ministry reminded workers that their contracts stipulate that they should respect Islam's rituals and practices, including the month of fasting.
The ministry warned that it would deport those who break the law. It stressed that employers and companies should inform their foreign workers about the penalties for violating the sanctity of the holy month, the Saudi Press Agency reported"
http://www.arabnews.com/news/593401
The CPVPV* brigade will intensify their presence and monitoring of the streets and corners of the Magic Kingdom to ensure full compliance with the rules of the Magic Kingdom.
There is a possibility that you will be prisoned or lashed or both if you do not show respect for Ramadan.
* CPVPV = Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Month of Ramadan expected to start June 6, 2016 |
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MI6agent wrote: |
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Ramadan for non-Muslims
While Muslims don’t expect non-Muslims to fast as well, it remains important to show respect. Most of the following points apply to the rest of the year too, but are even more important to adhere to during Ramadan:
- Do not eat, drink, or smoke in public during the fasting hours (from dawn until dusk). This includes chewing gum.
The penalty for not following the above etiquette can vary, with community service normally being favoured. |
The penalty for non-Muslim expat found eating and drinking in public during Ramadan is not community service, it is deportation from the Magic Kingdom. |
The offender is the one favoring community service. But yes, penalties can be harsh and include deportation from KSA. |
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currentaffairs
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Classes didn't change much. There was an official office set aside on campus with blinds down for non-Muslims to eat and drink with the door closed... |
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paul.conlong
Joined: 31 Mar 2015 Posts: 84 Location: Rochdale, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, good to know. I read somewhere that some institutes/ universities etc tend to reduce the working hours during ramadan. I suppose the no one rule fits all on this apart from Fridays is rest day. |
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MENA_chica
Joined: 28 Sep 2014 Posts: 82 Location: Middle East
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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paul.conlong wrote: |
I read somewhere that some institutes/ universities etc tend to reduce the working hours during ramadan. |
That's correct - some universities operate on a reduced-hours schedule during Ramadan. At the university where I work, we have been told that the working day will be reduced from 8 hours to 6 hours, with teachers starting the day 2 hours later than usual. This was also the situation last year. |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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5-hour work for govt staff in Ramadan
Saudi Gazette | June 3, 2016
Source: http://saudigazette.com.sa/saudi-arabia/5-hour-work-govt-staff-ramadan/
RIYADH – All government offices will work for five hours during Ramadan, the Ministry of Civil Service has announced.
In a circular issued on Thursday, the ministry said government offices will function from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Eid Al-Fitr holidays for this year will start on Thursday June 30, corresponding to Ramadan 25. Work will resume after the Eid holidays on Monday, July 11 (Shawwal 6), Saudi Press Agency quoted the ministry’s circular as saying.
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For Americans applying for visas in the US:
Per the Saudi Arabian Cultural Mission's (SACM) website, Ramadan work hours will be from 11:00am-4:00pm.
Source: http://www.sacm.org/Employeesoffice.aspx
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currentaffairs
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I think the workday shrunk to six hours or something where I was working as well. |
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cnthaiksarok
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Be sure to rinse out your mouth before having discussions with followers at work (or otherwise) after that private snack or big breakfast.
They can smell that food on your lips a mile away.  |
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MI6agent
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 87 Location: Dark Web
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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cnthaiksarok wrote: |
Be sure to rinse out your mouth before having discussions with followers at work (or otherwise) after that private snack or big breakfast.
They can smell that food on your lips a mile away.  |
Better way than using a tooth brush, is to use MISWAK (or SIWAK - it looks like a cigar but is not a cigar! ) to clean your teeth. The MISWAK is widely available in the Magic Kingdom.
How To Clean Your Teeth Using Miswak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eamh-GNUsnI |
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plumpy nut
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Ramadan may very well not start on the 6th, specialized imams in Saudi
Arabia who view the skies have to see the beginning of the crescent before Ramadan begins. I'm assuming this is done without binoculars because that could be deemed un-Islamic. |
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cnthaiksarok
Joined: 29 Jun 2012 Posts: 288 Location: between a rock and a sandy place
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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MI6agent wrote: |
Better way than using a tooth brush, is to use MISWAK |
I wouldn't recommend a toothbrush (or mouthwash, mints, etc.) in the middle of the day, (again if you're going to be in close quarters with people fasting) which is why I wrote 'rinse with water.'
Not to be argumentative, but miswak is not always acceptable or...allowed. May depend on region / school / admin. etc.
It's disallowed (during Ramadan) at my Academy.
(absorption from the wood contains minerals, I was told) |
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MI6agent
Joined: 16 Apr 2016 Posts: 87 Location: Dark Web
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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cnthaiksarok wrote: |
Not to be argumentative, but miswak is not always acceptable or...allowed. May depend on region / school / admin. etc.
It's disallowed (during Ramadan) at my Academy.
(absorption from the wood contains minerals, I was told) |
"Many people think you cannot use a miswak or toothbrush during Ramadan. This is false, for the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to use a miswak during Ramadan. Also you CAN use toothpaste; the reasoning by the scholars is that the miswak has flavor, thus toothpaste is okay to use (if you are not eating it)."
Common mistakes while fasting
http://www.arabnews.com/news/457038 |
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