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nomad soul
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| paul.conlong wrote: |
| Outside of your contracted job role how do you actually find other paying jobs? |
Very discretely. Working for another sponsor (or yourself) is illegal. However, some teachers tutor on the side but obviously don't broadcast it.
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| Also if your spouse goes over there is it fairly easy for them to find work if they wanted to on a part time basis, such as a teaching assistant etc. |
Teaching is the only job a trailing spouse is allowed to do and is dependent on 1) her quals (i.e., degree, cert, & experience); and 2) if there are no Saudi women qualified to hold the position. |
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izmigari
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Teaching is the only job a trailing spouse is allowed to do and is dependent on 1) her quals (i.e., degree, cert, & experience); and 2) if there are no Saudi women qualified to hold the position. |
Quite the sweeping statement as my wife held jobs both as a medical receptionist and an office manager.
I'll be sure to reassure her that her combined five years of working in the Kingdom was simply a delusion.  |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| izmigari wrote: |
Quite the sweeping statement as my wife held jobs both as a medical receptionist and an office manager.
I'll be sure to reassure her that her combined five years of working in the Kingdom was simply a delusion. |
Which was how long ago? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Also if your spouse goes over there is it fairly easy for them to find work if they wanted to on a part time basis, such as a teaching assistant etc. |
I should have added healthcare professional along with teacher.
From December 2013:
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The Ministry of Labor is set to allow companies to hire expatriate women in seven business activities including health, education, dressmaking, childcare, in wedding halls and as cleaners.
The foreign women recruits would not be allowed to work as part-timers or remotely and their qualifications and experiences should match the requirements of the jobs. They should fall within prescribed age limits, with the exception of the health and education sectors, the plan said.
Source: 7 job categories opened to expat women, Arab News |
However, those categories have shrunk even more for both male and female expats.
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The Labor Ministry has banned issuance of permanent, temporary or seasonal visas to expats for a number of professions. According to reports in the local newspapers, a number of professions have been added to the reserved category. Jobs in these particular professions have to be carried out only by Saudis.
The ministry identified 19 job titles that are off-limits to expatriates. Among them are chief administrator of human resources at government and private sector companies, head of personnel department, director of labor affairs, director of personnel relations, employment clerk, time-keeper, receptionist (general), receptionist (hotel), receptionist (hospitals), cashier and typist.
Source: More jobs off-limits to expats, Arab News |
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izmigari
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Alright, I'll bite:
1.) It was before 2013.
2.) I don't read the poster as asking anything other than an accompanying spouse getting work.
3.) Unless I'm mistaken, the evidence you provide speaks to foreign women who fall under the Labor Ministry...a different kettle.
4.) The 2013 article has tentative language.
5.) This 2015 Arab News further clarifies that the news concerns work permit holders...again a different kettle.
Your "advice" is overreaching, overgeneralizing, and, somehow...just somehow, I have a feeling that the chemicals that control your fingers will not permit you to NOT respond.
Having to have the last word has left many a spinster.  |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| Having to have the last word has left many a spinster. |
Don't be such a sexist Izmi!! Fits both sexes I'd say... but only women get a negative term to describe it.
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izmigari
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As usual VS, your point is taken. It's unfortunate that, I guess, the male counterpart would be a "confirmed bachelor". I sometimes forget that.
Edited for correction. 
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Gulezar
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:08 am Post subject: Back to topic |
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| Is it possible to do IELTS Examining on the weekends in Saudi Arabia? I know that it will depend on the employer, but do any teachers do IELTS Examining in Saudi and would that be possible for a spouse to do? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Is it possible to do IELTS Examining on the weekends in Saudi Arabia? I know that it will depend on the employer, but do any teachers do IELTS Examining in Saudi and would that be possible for a spouse to do? |
KSA has a sponsorship system; all foreign workers have to be sponsored in order to work/live in the Kingdom. But don't count on being able to work for two entities. Per Saudi Labor Law, Article (39):(1) Unless he has followed the stipulated legal rules and procedures, an employer may not allow his worker to work for others, and a worker may not work for other employers. Similarly, an employer may not employ workers of other employers.
(2) An employer may not allow a worker to work for his own account and a worker may not work for his own account.
Source: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=83790
As for IELTS opportunities, here's a 2015 ad from the Cafe job board for full-time IELTS examiners. The British Council also hires examiners. There shouldn't be any issues wiith trailing spouses applying. |
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sicklyman
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Back to topic |
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| Is it possible to do IELTS Examining on the weekends in Saudi Arabia? I know that it will depend on the employer, but do any teachers do IELTS Examining in Saudi and would that be possible for a spouse to do? |
If you're a current examiner the British Council would love to hear from you. Lots of work available. BC Khobar does training rarely but examines people almost every weekend. |
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