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ebooktrial0001
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:12 am Post subject: Doing Intensive ESL Tutoring for Two Weeks? Books + Advice? |
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Hello Everyone,
I know others have given astute advice that I should give more specific situational details and ask specific questions.
In August, I am going to help a Hong Kong Chinese family with becoming a live in tutor. So, I'll monitor two boys all day, and help with English, subject tutoring, and sports.
For the English tutoring, I'll need to do a need's assessment, tutoring, and follow-up activities.
Can anyone recommend some books or websites that can help?
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kpjf

Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 385
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:25 am Post subject: |
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What's the point in even helping you. You post threads and then don't even bother. You still haven't answered my question on this thread: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=114257
ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
Can anyone recommend some books or websites that can help?
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Website: Google.com
Book: Oxford English Dictionary |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Have to agree with kpjf. I also posted on your other thread and you didn't acknowledge or thank either of us but rather found time to start this new thread.
You may need to work on your English before you consider teaching it:
'I am going to help a Hong Kong Chinese family with becoming a live in tutor' - the phrasing that you've used suggests that it's the family who will become a live-in tutor.
'I'll need to do a need's assessment' - greengrocer's apostrophe.
TBH your posts (are starting to) come across as spam, and if you were a real teacher you should have the thinking and research skills if not experience to be able to answer most of your questions yourself. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it depends on a variety of factors. How old are these children? If they are in the primary age range, what is their literacy level? What reading level (in their own language)? Can they decode sounds? What English exposure have they had? Do their parents even care about literacy, or is the main purpose to interact with a native speaker? |
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Helpful thoughts to be sure, Santi, but I doubt the OP will bother to actually engage with you. His or her style seems to be just hit and run, and "take take take". Still, perhaps answering questions in the abstract will help future readers...in all likelihood though they will simply start their own threads even if they bother to search for and read this gem! |
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santi84
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:30 am Post subject: |
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You're probably right, Fluffy! I have a lot of passion for childhood language acquisition, so I could probably offer an encyclopedia worth of recommendations on this topic. That being said, with children, it is even more important to have a solid foundation of knowledge in childhood literacy development before attempting to plan things like a needs assessment. I would hope the OP can clarify what knowledge he already has in this area. I get that a lot of people don't have child/youth training and just do it for fun, but I've seen a lot of (educational) damage done by those without understanding literacy fundamentals.
I might be wrong though. I'm four days from summer vacation, and the children have driven me to the brink of insanity this year  |
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ebooktrial0001
Joined: 02 Jan 2014 Posts: 156
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:03 am Post subject: |
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@Santi84
@FluffyHamster
@Kpjf
Thank you for your advice. It is genuinely considerate.
I am in China now; so, we do not have Google, and even innocent websites are blocked or too slow. |
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santi84
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Any follow-up on my specific questions? |
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spiral78

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:55 am Post subject: |
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As usual, not this OP's priority, sadly. |
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ebooktrial0001
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:44 am Post subject: |
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How old are these children?
If they are in the primary age range, what is their literacy level? What reading level (in their own language)?
Can they decode sounds?
What English exposure have they had?
Do their parents even care about literacy, or is the main purpose to interact with a native speaker?
They are both 14 years old, high IQ males (judging by their rapid comprehension of math, science, and my history class.
Their main purpose is general improve their general English proficiency in reading and speaking, as well as conversation. |
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kpjf

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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:59 am Post subject: |
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ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
Their main purpose is general improve their general English proficiency in reading and speaking, as well as conversation. |
Question: Is English your mother tongue? |
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Hod
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Obviously not. I've always had doubts about the reasons for this person's posts on here. Maybe they're some sort of school owner or a student doing research. If so, fine, but they're never in a million decades a native-speaking teacher. |
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santi84
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
How old are these children?
If they are in the primary age range, what is their literacy level? What reading level (in their own language)?
Can they decode sounds?
What English exposure have they had?
Do their parents even care about literacy, or is the main purpose to interact with a native speaker?
They are both 14 years old, high IQ males (judging by their rapid comprehension of math, science, and my history class.
Their main purpose is general improve their general English proficiency in reading and speaking, as well as conversation. |
Thanks for answering some of my questions. I would caution against equating high grades in STEM/history with "IQ", after all, that could also suggest a higher ability in rote memory rather than overall intelligence, right? What is intelligence? Is it defined by that? Not IMP. Doesn't really matter.
For boys in this age range, I would recommend meaningful activities to them, such as integrating technology/internet into their learning. Memes, video games, TV, movies, outdoor activities, comic books (use blanks to encourage dialogue), reader's theatre, apps, and so on. You may also want to integrate some OT-based printing activities to help them fine tune their skills at printing. Other than that, don't be boring as hell, or you'll lose them - the golden rule of middle school. |
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spiral78

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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway, we still don't know their current level of English as the OP conveniently omitted this VITAL bit of info. Not wasting time here.... |
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santi84
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
Anyway, we still don't know their current level of English as the OP conveniently omitted this VITAL bit of info. Not wasting time here.... |
True. Reading back to the OP (I got lost, obviously), it seems he is supposed to be teaching subjects and athletics. So, it sounds like more of a paid bigger brother than an ESL teacher. |
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