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MI6agent
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 Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:44 am Post subject: Cincinnati Gorilla: To shoot or not to shoot |
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Cincinnati Zoo workers shot dead Harambe, a 17-year-old silverback gorilla, out of fear that he would hurt Isaiah Dickerson - but latest footage suggests he was NOT in danger.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/astonishing-new-footage-shows-gorilla-8082168
Cincinnati gorilla shooting: Police to investigate parents
"The case report provided by police states that witnesses said the gorilla at first appeared to be protecting the boy, but then grew agitated due to screaming onlookers. It then began to drag him."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36420437
If you were the parent of the boy, what would you do? |
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RedLightning
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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No choice
If the gorilla had hurt the boy in any way, you can be sure the mother (despite her negligence) would have sued the hell out of the zoo- this is America after all. |
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MI6agent
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is a difficult situation, where animal behaviour is unpredictable.
It is difficult to draw the line between a "violent and a "peaceful" animal?
Published on 31 May 2016
"A silverback gorilla named Harambe was shot to death one day after his 17-th birthday after a child fell into the gorilla habitat at the Cincinnati Zoo. While some news reports portrayed Harambe's behavior as violent, the analysis in this video concurs with witnesses who opined that his behavior was protective of the fallen child. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Wd-1euBF8 |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| It was too bad, but they had to. |
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MI6agent
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Why do we care so much more about gorillas than other animals?
"What a strange and complicated species we humans are. Relative to our size our brains are bigger than that of any other species – allowing us to communicate, solve problems, and enjoy an awareness of our place in the world that is unique among animals.
Yet in the face of the cute and cuddly our famous brains, capable of rational thinking like that of no other species, apparently turn into sentimental mush.
Seemingly every media outlet has been caught up in recent days with the story of Harambe, a western lowland gorilla at Cincinnati Zoo.
Harambe is now dead, shot by humans to prevent the possibility of him wittingly – or unwittingly – killing a small boy who had somehow rolled into his enclosure.
Now we can all get hot under the collar about a lack of responsible parenting – “accidents happen” was the boy’s mother’s response – and the rights and wrongs of killing an animal under such circumstances.
The subsequent media storm, the vigils held for Harambe and the column inches his death generated proved that many did get very hot under the collar indeed. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/31/why-do-we-care-so-much-more-about-gorillas-than-other-animals/ |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Shoot the mother for putting the zoo in such a difficult position in the first place. |
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spiral78
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Actually I have some respect for the mother - she apparently didn't go into a screaming meltdown but did what she could to keep her son calm throughout the event. Also it seems the family have been offered money by well-wishers, but they've made a public statement that they don't want donations, and have asked would-be donors to give instead to the zoo in honor of the gorilla.
That all sounds like a quite decent parent who probably just got taken by surprise by her 4-year-old. Little kids are quite capable of getting past even the most vigilant parent. |
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plumpy nut
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:05 am Post subject: Re: Cincinnati Gorilla: To shoot or not to shoot |
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| MI6agent wrote: |
If you were the parent of the boy, what would you do? |
Gregory999, it was the zoo that shot the Gorilla. The parents were not in a position to do anything other than hope the Gorilla didn't kill the boy, and that the zoo would do something.
By the way the Gorilla was male, and male's don't protect small little apes (the boy) the way females do. The Gorilla could have instantly killed the boy. The Gorilla had not only dragged the boy but tossed him before being shot.
Now if you mean how would you react as a parent to the situation? I can't think of anything more meaningless to post. Parents can react in many different ways to the situation. Who cares?
The above would be a good topic for your Saudi students in English classes, assuming that you teach there. You could discuss that along with Islam and the other topics that "the successful few" cling to, and in doing so avoid English which gets most teachers fired. |
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MI6agent
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Cincinnati Gorilla: To shoot or not to shoot |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| By the way the Gorilla was male, and male's don't protect small little apes (the boy) the way females do. |
Why did you shoot the apostrophe?
This is how you teach the plural of male to your students? 
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| The above would be a good topic for your Saudi students in English classes, assuming that you teach there. You could discuss that along with Islam and the other topics that "the successful few" cling to, and in doing so avoid English which gets most teachers fired. |
First I am not there, I am here.
Second, I do not teach English.
Third, what have Saudi students and Islam to do with the topic of Gorilla? |
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sheikh radlinrol
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Cincinnati Gorilla: To shoot or not to shoot |
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| MI6agent wrote: |
| plumpy nut wrote: |
| By the way the Gorilla was male, and male's don't protect small little apes (the boy) the way females do. |
Why did you shoot the apostrophe?
This is how you teach the plural of male to your students?
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| The above would be a good topic for your Saudi students in English classes, assuming that you teach there. You could discuss that along with Islam and the other topics that "the successful few" cling to, and in doing so avoid English which gets most teachers fired. |
First I am not there, I am here.
Second, I do not teach English.
Third, what have Saudi students and Islam to do with the topic of Gorilla? |
No reply from Plumpy! Go for him Gregory  |
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scot47
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| You must understand that Plumpy was driven over the edge by his time in Saudi Arabia. |
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asiannationmc
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| Harambe, was the gorilla of my dreams |
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Lack
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Eh, we've got enough stupid kids and inept parents. They should've left the kid and shot the parents. |
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