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AndyinHK
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 98
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Let's forgo the 'tefl' aspect and imagine we are newly qualified, (i.e. PGCE, which pays about 50,000 a month in Hong Kong) teachers in Londno. We start on 20k a year, i.e. about 1300 UK pounds a month. Take out the rent on the flat my school her gives me, plus bills (London council tax), internet charges, meals etc, and you would be left with about what I get paid here, where everything is far cheaper than London.
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A newly qualified teacher, as you say, would get about 16,000 (or about 12 UK pounds) a month in HK on the NET scheme, not 50,000, because all of your experience in China pre-qualification doesn't count when computing your salary. Also, over the last couple of years it has been really tough for those without experience in their home countries to get hired. (I know it shouldn't be, but they want to see experience teaching L1 learners.)
Living expenses here are much higher, in general, than on the mainland. If your lucky, you may get a housing allowance, but you have to prove that you have residency in your home country. In other words, they are going to ask you what you did over the past few years, where you lived, etc. If you can show that you actually worked as a teacher in the UK, obviously you were a resident there, thus you should qualify for a housing allowance. Otherwise, they may not. In other words, if they can keep from paying you the allowance they will.
If you get the allowance you would still need to pay your own utilities, internet access, transportation, food, etc. |
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AndyinHK
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| oops, that should read 1200 UK pounds |
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cheekygal

Joined: 04 Mar 2003 Posts: 1987 Location: China, Zhuhai
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| 7,000 with all benefits (accomodation, bonus at the end of one year contract, Z visa and all necessary documents) if i teach from 15-20 hours a week. 6,000 if its between 10-15 and 5,000 - if less than 10. My salary rank is higher because I am on my 3rd contract with the school, they want to continue working with me and I am a senior teacher. The newcomer on the first contract in my company would get 5,000 - 4,000 -3,000. Any overtime astrinomical hour = 100 RMB. |
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Ludwig

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 1096 Location: 22� 20' N, 114� 11' E
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Whats YOUR monthly salary in China? |
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| Simple question: How much do you get each month and which city are you in?? |
Simple answer: $30,000, Hong Kong. |
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AndyinHK
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 98
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Ludwig,
I think you mentioned you worked at a uni... Also, you have much more quals than the average Joe... I read you have an MA, PGDE, etc. and are working on a Phd. I think you mentioned somewhere that you have 'several' years of experience too.
I just wanted to provide some perspective. |
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brsmith15

Joined: 12 May 2003 Posts: 1142 Location: New Hampshire USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: money and such |
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Maybe this series of postings would have been better suited to a straight poll because, as one very wise poster said before, this is nothing more than guys slamming their d**ks on the table. "Mine is bigger than yours," and all that.
I came to China over 5 years ago and was paid 1500 RMB a month. Yup. Fifteen hundred. I had a small PDA that I used to record my daily expenditures because I knew on the average I was allotted 50 a day. Happy? As a clam.
Great little apartment. I loved my classes, the school, the students, the administration. Then I took some promotions. School director. Head of a grad program. Monthly salary averaged around 20,000, but I was far less pleased. Was given a bigger apartment. But.....What was once fun became drudgery. I got bonuses. I got bored. The more yuan that flowed, the more miserable I became.
I went home for a year to think things over and decided to return. I'm now with a real, live university. Low hours and a great place. Very high pay, but nothing this summer because there are no classes. No benefits.
As the man called "One Stone" reminded us: everything is relative. |
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