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Paris teacher
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 Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:19 pm Post subject: Are visas granted to people on antidepressants? |
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| If a prospective teacher takes an antidepressant, is that a disqualification for employment? Some joke that you need to be slightly daft to accept a position in KSA, but if you take medication for anxiety, depression, or any other psychological matter, is the Kingdom closed to you for health reasons? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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FYI: The Saudi med report requires disclosure of both physical and mental health issues (including prescribed meds).
This topic was discussed a year ago in Over the counter meds. However, for current info about your particular meds, I suggest you do an Internet search on: [specific drug name] Saudi Arabia. |
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scot47
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| If you depend on psychotropic medication do not go. I would suggest that the same applies to those who need alcohol to function. I say that as someone who has been in KSA drunk and sober ! |
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babur
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veiledsentiments
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scot47
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| If you depend on psychotropic medication do not go. |
Outdated-thinking and nonsense in the 1st place.
All medications are available w/ prescription and some directly from the pharmacy, although most expats would elect to NOT use their med cards for such medications and pay in cash - which hospitals, doctors and pharmacists understand.
If you're not acute, have some history in dealing with your symptoms effectively and understand what you're up against, you wouldn't be the first of your kind to endure and succeed. Believe me, an expat teacher with a mental illness in "the dunes" is hardly a novelty.
Nurse 1 says: "Most things are available here on prescription and many things that you would not expect are available over the counter. You may be required to see a specialist for the prescription but bring a few month's supply anyway with a doctor's note."
Nurse 2 says: "to be honest if they banned antidepressants no only would expats go crazy so would the saudis,, the information you have is not right, you can get them at any pharmacy and if they are not displayed they will pull them out from under the counter."
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| I would suggest that the same applies to those who need alcohol to function. I say that as someone who has been in KSA drunk and sober ! |
Well, first of all - anyone who cannot function w/o booze should be seeking treatment before searching for a job, but what are you trying to say?
There isn't any alcohol in Saudi? Oh, ok...right - right. <wink> Yeah.
AA chapters are avail. in both Riyadh and Jeddah
https://americanbedu.com/2013/05/02/saudi-arabia-alcoholism-in-the-kingdom/
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Are visas granted to people on antidepressants? |
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| Paris teacher wrote: |
| If a prospective teacher takes an antidepressant, is that a disqualification for employment? |
Disclosing it very well could be. I wouldn't imagine anyone with such an affliction would check the box on the form that says "yes" nor use a doctor in their home country who would be aware.
The blood work is trickier, but in general - if they're not looking for it, they won't see it. It costs money for each examination and analysis.
That said, I was told by someone suffering from depression that he planned for and stopped taking his meds (w/ his regular doctor's awareness) pre-visa-med check and resumed on arrival. As a result he had to deal with some symptoms about 2-3 months after, but was able to pull through it ok. |
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babur
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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scot47
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Outdated ? Take a look at that calendar. You might think it is 2016. The Musselman have a different number !
Followers of Timothy Leary do not flourish in Arabia Deserta ! |
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cnthaiksarok
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| Outdated ? Take a look at that calendar. You might think it is 2016. The Musselman have a different number |
Rubbish
Mental illness IS recognized, prescribed for and treated in Saudi Arabia's clinics and hospitals because here (like anywhere else) a definitive segment of the population suffers from specific biological ailments that affect their psychological make up.
There are even psychotherapists in Riyadh and Jeddah.
It WAS even recognized and openly treated in 1999. In that year I partnered w/ a S. Afr. nurse who specialized in psychiatric nursing and took part in treating MANY patients with various mental issues both expat and Saudi and other. Many of the former were BAE employees. |
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scot47
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Civilised debate does not include shouting, "Rubbish !", "Garbage !" or "Idiot !" at your interlocutors.
Did they not teach you that at College in the course on Rhetoric ? |
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cnthaiksarok
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| scot47 wrote: |
Civilised debate does not include shouting, "Rubbish !", "Garbage !" or "Idiot !" at your interlocutors.
Did they not teach you that at College in the course on Rhetoric ? |
Shouting in text speak includes capital letters and exclamation points.
Check my post again.
Civilized debate also does not include misappropriating another one's words.
(I didn't write "garbage" or "idiot,") nor does it include short, witty attempts to make light of a serious topic with the guise of knowing something that no one else knows while misleading newbies looking for authentic information or even changing the subject.
Look Scot, we all know that you've had years, nay decades in the region. And RESPECT for that. But on this one, (to quote Vonnegut) you don't know doodely-squat pal. |
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Paris teacher
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Thanks for the replies and the stimulating debate back and forth. I am actually not on medication, but I was told by more than one former resident of KSA that it might be a logical option to think about Prozac or Zoloft or Paxil as a way to deal with. Other ways would be Yoga, meditation, and exercise.
Anyway, the word around here seems to be that if you are on the drugs, don't tick the box, and get your physical done by a doctor who doesn't know your psychiatric history. Most blood tests seem to about detecting marijuana, cocaine, and illicit substances, at least that's the way it appears for Korea, which seems to be preoccupied with marijuana. |
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