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Jumping through the Authentication of Document Hoops, grrrr.
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus wawaguagua, this matter is already resolved. The people who give you the residence permit don't care about education. Stop wasting your time.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:

If you're chomping at the bit, rather than relying on the goodwill of relatives, bite the bullet and pay a professional document authentication service to facilitate the process expeditiously for you.


It's probably the only way that it can be done anyway. Most of the Chinese consulates won't take walk-ins or mailed documents. The trick will be getting all of the paperwork to the service if there's no international courier service that serves China and the U.S. or Europe.

How much time has been lost on griping? Two weeks? A month?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So right Bud.
The endless re-litigation of the Chinese system by reference the home country.
If you are trying to get sorted to take up a position in September, get moving and use whatever services you need to to get your job settled. The FAO isn't going to be in the office beyond mid July. Rolling Eyes
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wuliuchiba



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a wild idea, why not just go directly to the site of Chinese consulate and see what they have to say?

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/gzrz/rzcx/

You don't need to have it authenticated at the Federal level unless you are sending it to a consulate that is not in the jurisdiction where you obtained your degree.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wuliuchiba wrote:
I had a wild idea, why not just go directly to the site of Chinese consulate and see what they have to say?

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/gzrz/rzcx/

You don't need to have it authenticated at the Federal level unless you are sending it to a consulate that is not in the jurisdiction where you obtained your degree.


That's pretty much what I did years ago, except that a drivers license wasn't mentioned.

You can have all of this handled by a courier service with the exception of the authentication by the county clerk (if necessary). You'd also have to handle the notarized copies.
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone tell me how long it takes for the consulate to process a Z visa application, once the letter of invitation is received, and all the forms filled out and given to the consulate? Do they have a fast service (i.e. if you pay extra money)? I should receive my invitation letter Friday or Monday of next week. A woman at the embassy, working in a different section (here in Melbourne) told me that they could process a Z visa the same day, as long as you get there in the morning. Then you pick it up in the afternoon. Given how much BS I have been through so far, I find this difficult to believe. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

RM
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 days I got mine in.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the U.S., it's 2-4 days, shorter if the courier service AND the consulate will provide same day service.

Here's the process in the U.S.:

It's overnight FedEx to your courier service

Next day to the Chinese consulate (if the courier service provides an expedited service). If the consulate provides same-day turnaround, then it's a half-day there

Possibly overnight service from FedEx to you.

Call your courier service to find out turnaround times. Courier service times change and are dependent upon how fast the Chinese consulates can respond. The consulates' response times fluctuate.
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rocket man



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some US consulates ( Houston for example) DO NOT offer expedited service, from what I've heard LA does for a fee as my agent said they could send it there for an additional $140 fee since my flight over was coming up soon

A couple of other potential problems to note
Tell the people over in China before they send over the invitation to 1) make sure the bar code is valid at the top, I had my first letter rejected because of that and had to get my school to send over a new one and 2) make sure at the top that it says in Chinese the proper name of either the embassy or consulate you are applying to. My second letter said "To the EMBASSY ( my caps) of the China PRC..." When it should have said "To the CONSULATE of.." as I am applying to the Houston Consulate. Good news this time was that in order to fix that, all I needed was a copy of the letter with that fixed. As of now I'm hoping to get my visa Weds and leave Saturday
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just noticed a whole heap of mumbo-jumbo on the Chinese consulate site. It seems I need more than just the letter of invitation. Does anybody know what the following is all about? Most categories require an additional document besides the letter of invitation. I have no idea what any of them are. Which of the following four categories applies to we FTs? I suspect it is not number four, and my guess would be number 2???

One of the following.

1) Foreigners Employment Permit of the People's Republic of China issued by Chinese government authorities for Human Resources and Social Security, as well as Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Entity or Confirmation Letter of Invitation issued by relevant Chinese entities.

2) Permit for Foreign Experts Working in China issued by the State Bureau of Foreign Experts as well as Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Entity or Confirmation Letter of Invitation issued by relevant Chinese entities.

3) Registration Certificate of Resident Representative Offices of enterprises of foreign countries(regions) issued by Chinese authorities of industrial and commercial administration, as well as Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Entity or Confirmation Letter of Invitation issued by relevant Chinese entities as well as Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Entity or Confirmation Letter of Invitation issued by relevant Chinese entities.

4) An approval document for commercial performances issued by the Chinese government authorities for cultural affairs or Invitation Letter of Duly Authorized Entity or Confirmation Letter of Invitation issued by relevant Foreign Affairs Office of provincial governments of China.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number two is the invitation letter.

It seems that all of that other stuff is for other visas.

I needed only my Invitation letter (and health check) to procure the Z visa.
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Bud and Rocket Man. I sent this same query to the school, and they have assured me they know what docs to send me. Nothing about any bar code, though. They say they will simply have a number on the letter. I hope this is OK, as some FTs seem to be saying the system has changed and you need a bar code. But you'd think the folks in the government in my (future) city would know all that, as they'd by sending out a heap of them every week.
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