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nellyp
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 Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 7:44 am Post subject: Laminated documents |
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Are laminated documents acceptable in Saudi? I am just laminating various documents I have, and I am wondering about diplomas certificates etc for Saudi.
Any thoughts or experiences? |
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currentaffairs
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| I would get scanned copies on your hard drive. I never take originals with me, but having copies on hand would be a good idea. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| Don't laminate your original documents. |
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MI6agent
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Laminated documents |
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| nellyp wrote: |
Are laminated documents acceptable in Saudi? I am just laminating various documents I have, and I am wondering about diplomas certificates etc for Saudi.
Any thoughts or experiences? |
You might face problems when you are going to certify/notarise your original degrees and certificates, especially with the Saudi cultural bureau or their foreign ministry in the Magic Kingdom.
They might not accept a laminated origin document, as they think you have spoiled its originality!
I know other institutions/ministries do not accept to certify laminated original documents. |
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nellyp
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| OK, thanks all. This is what i was thinking; so I will forget about laminates |
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Spelunker
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: re: scanned copies?? |
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| This is all very confusing. So are scanned colour copies of the originals acceptable? My degree and tefl are both laminated, as I didn't want them to get wet when lugging a rucsack about in hong kongs perenially rainy sub tropical climate....hmmmmmmm |
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hash
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: Re: re: scanned copies?? |
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| Spelunker wrote: |
| This is all very confusing. So are scanned colour copies of the originals acceptable? My degree and tefl are both laminated, as I didn't want them to get wet when lugging a rucsack about in hong kongs perenially rainy sub tropical climate....hmmmmmmm |
You should order original replacements for your degree and tefl....in fact what I do now is order 5 originals of my important documents, not just 1 sample. Most institutions now will provide you with multiple "original" samples for a fee. That way you can have an original with you at all times while keeping another original back home.
(This can't always be done...but it's getting more and more common since issuing agencies are constantly bombarded with requests for "originals".)
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Spelunker
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: re: saudi and china... |
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| I think I'll have to give up on ever working in Saudi or China then, it's hard enough to get them to post me a letter confirming I did my TEFL at the university I graduated from, let alone process and post originals of both degree AND tefl. Incompetence is one term, laziness perhaps another..... |
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hash
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: re: saudi and china... |
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| Spelunker wrote: |
| I think I'll have to give up on ever working in Saudi or China then, it's hard enough to get them to post me a letter confirming I did my TEFL at the university I graduated from, let alone process and post originals of both degree AND tefl. Incompetence is one term, laziness perhaps another..... |
Oh.......I wouldn't toss in the towel just on the basis that all you have are laminated copies of documents or copies thereof.
Sometimes (often, actually), incompetence is a blessing in disguise....it's a rare laminated copy of a document that doesn't come with a silver lining and so on.
All protestations to the contrary, you'd be surprised what is often accepted "in lieu of....." in the end. I'd certainly TRY to get originals from your institutions, but failing that, apply with what you've got......even when "instructions" say something like "originals only accepted" and so forth. Just send in what you've got (without explanation)....just hand them in. Play dumb.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Spelunker wrote: |
| I think I'll have to give up on ever working in Saudi or China then, it's hard enough to get them to post me a letter confirming I did my TEFL at the university I graduated from, let alone process and post originals of both degree AND tefl. |
I recall you marked Hong Kong off your list as well. Since verifying your university TEFL cert is problematic, why not just bite the bullet and complete a CELTA/equivalent 120-hour cert course? Otherwise, you'll likely find yourself adding to that list of "no-go" countries.  |
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Spelunker
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:12 pm Post subject: re: fair points and thank you all... |
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| Otherwise, you'll likely find yourself adding to that list of "no-go" countries. |
You may well be right. But my degree in english lit is next to useless anyway. Sad to say, I'd hand it back in and trade it for those three years of my life back and have the student loan debt wiped out, but that will never happen, as much as I would like it to, hindsight is a wonderful thing  
I would rather bank salary working on a canal boat in the UK, at least I would not have to plan lessons, and it pays more than TEFL and as full board and room is included, salary is all bankable. TEFL is in a rut worldwide at the moment, imho.
Cheers and beers again,
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scot47
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I laminated younger daughter's UK birth certificate. Later when submitting it for a new passport I was told that the laminated copy was "not acceptable". I had to get a new one ! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Laminating official documents can make it difficult to see features like security holograms, watermarks, raised seals, and even paper texture --- all designed to authenticate the document is original.
Rather than laminating your docs to protect them from wear-n-tear, spills, etc., keep them in a sturdy plastic/vinyl sleeve or envelope. |
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Spelunker
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:38 pm Post subject: re: laminated documents |
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You are rather interested in these laminated documents, are you not nomad soul? Did you ever work in a print shop or something perchance   
Given that the TEFL market is in a rut everywhere, my degree is pretty much useless anyway. A guy I knew with more degrees than a thermometer in China has had to admit defeat after the chinese wanted each one notarizing at great cost and time to himself. He has gone to another country where they don't mither as much....and the exodus goes on. Perhaps, perhaps, it can be argued it is worth jumping through the hoops for the KSA, but not for chinese salaries, not worth all that stress at all. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: re: laminated documents |
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| Spelunker wrote: |
Given that the TEFL market is in a rut everywhere, my degree is pretty much useless anyway.
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Perhaps, perhaps, it can be argued it is worth jumping through the hoops for the KSA, but not for chinese salaries, not worth all that stress at all. |
If your BA in English Lit is from an accredited, brick-n-mortar university, it's not useless. However, if there's some reason why you're unable (or unwilling) to have it authenticated/attested for jobs in the Gulf, Hong Kong, China, etc., then focus on countries where a BA isn't required. |
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