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Gnome
Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 74
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject: CEC Network in the UAE - Any comments from Canadians? |
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The CEC Network is currently interviewing across Canada for positions globally, including Oman and the UAE. I understand that they have something to do with the technical schools in the UAE, not the HCT system. Have you worked for them or do you have any comments, opinions or advice about their operations? What is their repututation? |
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holymoly
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 8 Location: UAE
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Gnome,
Do you wonder why nobody has posted a reply to your respose? I will tell you now. First, I debated whether or not to post a reply for some time as I DID WORK for this outfit at one point. I also thought long and hard about whether I should post my experience here as I genuinely felt that if I did, my experience may impact somebody's decision as to whether to take a job with this outfit . Anyway, I have decided to let my views be expressed here and let the reader decide. CECN/Educonsult is a boiler room style-operation run out of Dubai. They do not monitor, advise or assist teachers whatsoever. You will be teaching the dregs of Emirati youth whose only reason for being there are to keep out from underfoot of their parents who need them to be elsewhere during the day. When September eleventh occured, the students in my class displayed cartoons of a plane crashing into the 2 towers on their handphones, Cheering. CECN will NOT help you in the least on the ground. You will be a punching bag for Anti-western sentiment, no matter where you are from because of the level of education/ignorance these males posess. So, nobody has answered because there is NOTHING positive to say. If you think I am havin' a lil' tirade then take the job and see what happens. 'Nuff said... PeAcE |
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Gnome
Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 74
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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Holymoly,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. The comments are very helpful. |
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Kizilbash
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 2 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject: Another View: CECN UAE |
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Here's another perspective from an old veteran of the UAE technical school program: Yes, the students are more than a handful and you will have more classroom management issues than you can imagine right now.
But if you are a little thick skinned and at least somewhat culturally savvy, i.e., don't hate Arabs, Muslims, and all they represent, you can reap great benefits from this program. From a teaching point of view, if you can make it here you can make it anywhere. This is the school of hard knocks where your management licks will be majorly honed.
The free time and paid vacation time is hands down the best you will find anywhere. It is not a demanding job in terms of lesson planning, committee work, or extracurricular activities. While most of the students really do not care about English, you will find some diamonds in the rough who are keen. The vast majority of students are decent individuals (it's the mob mentality that takes over in the classroom).
To be honest the worst drawback was some of the other English teachers, many of whom were down and out, racist lushes with nothing better to do than gripe and wish they were back in the West. The "anti-Western" sentiment mentioned previously may be true to some extent, but most of this buffoonery is geared more towards monkey-wrenching classroom activities than jihad against your pork-eating Western hide. Don't make a scene of it, and they will move on to other mischief.
This job is a great way to get your foot in the Middle Eastern door. Be aware of the challenges beforehand, have the confidence that you will rise to meet them, and you will be fine. |
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byromaniac
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: CEC Network in the UAE - Any comments from Canadians? |
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Gnome wrote: |
The CEC Network is currently interviewing across Canada for positions globally, including Oman and the UAE. I understand that they have something to do with the technical schools in the UAE, not the HCT system. Have you worked for them or do you have any comments, opinions or advice about their operations? What is their repututation? |
Gnome,
I am a Canadian, since you asked. I've worked for CECN in UAE for three years. three years is also how long CECN has been in UAE. They've been in Oman for one year now. I don't know much about the Oman project save to say the former project director of the CECN UAE project moved from the UAE project to the Oman project aftr one year and continues this year, heading up that project.
In the mean time the UAE project continues this year, it looks like, if you say they are hiring again. They have a contract to deliver English as a second language classes to Emirati highschool boys in technical secondary schools in seven Emirates. The contract is with the Department of Technical Education.
In the first year they gave starting teachers a one year renewable contract (which is actually a ten month contract), a salary of 6000 dirhams, 1500 housing money - they said right in the contract that CECN was "in the teaching business not in the housing business" so they gave us cash money. Also got 500 dirhams cash for a transport allowance. At the end of the contract we got one month salary for holiday pay and one month contract completion bonus. The second year the project director began calling the contract completion bonus a "performance bonus" but I think that was just to "motivate" us. No one actually lost their bonus. We lost a few teachers in every year mostly because the Arabic culture (at a vocational secondary school level) was too much for them to adjust to, IMO. These are vocational schools. Think of vocational schools back home then make sure you come prepared to deal with vocational school issues. Also, in listening to the current project director, in informal chatting, he has mentioned to me several times that
he believes many of these students in other cultures might well be categorized as special needs students. So come prepared for that, read up on how to deal with specail needs students but keep in mind too that what's considered special needs back home might very well be completely different than what you experience here.
Be prepared for some politics too. It's a fun game trying get your job done while avoiding having someone stick something up yer bum unexpectedly. Just like anywhere else in the world, you'll probably also find that among the really nice folk, there are one or two real fing *beep* that you might have to feed the egos of on this project too, surprise surprise. So, be prepared. Read up on and practise on your family and friends how to flatter people sincerely.
They now have a pay grid in place, based on experience. Whether you are a lead teacher or simply a teacher on the project. A third year teacher is getting pretty close to the amount a fresh lead teacher would get. When I got there first year they put me up in the Metropolitan Diera hotel, a posh enough fivestar in downtown Dubai, for one week. They advanced me five thousand dirham to look for a place to live and basically to survive til the first paycheck, one month later sept. first. In three years, I've been paid on time always. Competent office staff, people willing to help if you let them (and or ask them to).
It's the first place I've worked in the Middle East so I can't compare it to other places but I've been told both that I could do much better, both employment packagewise and just general workplace conditionswise once I had three years under my belt (and that has come true for me now - I'm moving on from CECN's project, in'sh'Allah, this year) and I've also been told that the students behaviour is to a greater or lessor degree, pretty typical Middle East young adult behaviour. All I can say is it will probably help you if you're a really patient person. They will test ya, man. How tuff are ya?
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menace2society32
Joined: 17 Aug 2003 Posts: 92
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: Similar advice |
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Listen to Holy Moly. He summed it up pretty well. I too had an experience there that I was happy to get away from. The majority of the students are good, but about 1/3 of the pupils will continually test you throughout the entire year. Worst of all, you will receive no support from CECN or the school administration. The teacher is always at fault. While I am from the West, lets just say I am not patriotic. So my dislike for this position is not at all due to social ignorance or a lack of global understanding, or a pro-western attitude (the last of which I definitely do not possess). I thought life in the U.A.E. was great (WHEN I WAS NOT WORKING). In fact, I enjoyed my social life a lot more in the U.A.E. then in the west. It is a very multicultural country and the experience is very rewarding. AND YOU WILL ENJOY IT EVEN MORE IF YOU STAY AWAY FROM CECN. HEED THE ADVICE. |
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