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rtm
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| weigookin74 wrote: |
| Most wages in Japan are still around 250,000 or less |
Yes, that's true for most entry-level EFL jobs in Japan. I don't know many people who have been in Japan for more than 3-5 or so years and still only make that much. In Japan, in-country experience is valued and connections can be important. That means that people with experience in other countries may need to take an entry-level job at first. |
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weigookin74
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| danshengou wrote: |
| By 'Japan garbage' you mean lousy neighborhoods? |
I mean you must already live in Japan. So, even if you worked and left for a bit, it's tough to get back in. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| rtm wrote: |
| weigookin74 wrote: |
| Most wages in Japan are still around 250,000 or less |
Yes, that's true for most entry-level EFL jobs in Japan. I don't know many people who have been in Japan for more than 3-5 or so years and still only make that much. In Japan, in-country experience is valued and connections can be important. That means that people with experience in other countries may need to take an entry-level job at first. |
250,000 yen is not so much for entry-level jobs as it is for advertised jobs. Jobs that pay more are by word of mouth.
Anyway, Japan is cutting salaries across the board. I just spoke with an American university teacher who had his pay slashed upon contract renewal. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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What is frustrating about Japan for me is that if you want to live somewhere else other than the Kanto region, you will, in most cases, suffer a pay cut.
The advertised jobs for Kanto pay around 250,000 yen, whereas jobs in Osaka only pay around 220,000 yen.
Living in the Kanto region is uncomfortable for me because the people here are rather unfriendly. |
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ssjup81
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
What is frustrating about Japan for me is that if you want to live somewhere else other than the Kanto region, you will, in most cases, suffer a pay cut.
The advertised jobs for Kanto pay around 250,000 yen, whereas jobs in Osaka only pay around 220,000 yen.
Living in the Kanto region is uncomfortable for me because the people here are rather unfriendly. |
It's the opposite for me. I was making close to ¥300,000 in Yamagata. Since moving down here, my pay has been abysmal and I'm still looking for something better. I'm not used of being nearly broke every month. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ssjup81 wrote: |
| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
What is frustrating about Japan for me is that if you want to live somewhere else other than the Kanto region, you will, in most cases, suffer a pay cut.
The advertised jobs for Kanto pay around 250,000 yen, whereas jobs in Osaka only pay around 220,000 yen.
Living in the Kanto region is uncomfortable for me because the people here are rather unfriendly. |
It's the opposite for me. I was making close to ¥300,000 in Yamagata. Since moving down here, my pay has been abysmal and I'm still looking for something better. I'm not used of being nearly broke every month. |
You were lucky.
Yeah, living in the Kanto is expensive. Unless you're making at least 300,000 yen / month, money's gonna be tight. You'll have to eat out less and party less to avoid the situation where a few days before payday every month, you're counting coins out of a jar to get by. |
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ssjup81
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| ssjup81 wrote: |
| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
What is frustrating about Japan for me is that if you want to live somewhere else other than the Kanto region, you will, in most cases, suffer a pay cut.
The advertised jobs for Kanto pay around 250,000 yen, whereas jobs in Osaka only pay around 220,000 yen.
Living in the Kanto region is uncomfortable for me because the people here are rather unfriendly. |
It's the opposite for me. I was making close to ¥300,000 in Yamagata. Since moving down here, my pay has been abysmal and I'm still looking for something better. I'm not used of being nearly broke every month. |
You were lucky.
Yeah, living in the Kanto is expensive. Unless you're making at least 300,000 yen / month, money's gonna be tight. You'll have to eat out less and party less to avoid the situation where a few days before payday every month, you're counting coins out of a jar to get by. |
In all honesty, my money generally goes towards medical stuff. I'm diabetic and the doctor insists on seeing me every month. In the states you go every three or four with refills. Japan needs a refill system. I also see a doctor every month for what I was hospitalized for this time two years ago. Given the nature of the condition, I don't have a problem seeing him every month as a way of monitoring me. His medication is also cheap.
That aside, Japan needs a refill system. I could say, I don't want to come for two months. The doctor would be like, "Ok, I'll prescribe you with a two-month supply". You have to pay for two months right up front. Insulin is expensive. It's ridiculous that you must go to the doctor, do lab work, etc., every month. That gets expensive and is why I'm always broke. |
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taikibansei
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| What is frustrating about Japan for me is that if you want to live somewhere else other than the Kanto region, you will, in most cases, suffer a pay cut. |
This will be news to many people living outside the Kanto area. E.g., the higher paying universities tend to be found in the Kansai area. Moreover, national and prefectural universities tend to pay the same regardless of region.
People actually in Japan often find it easier to save money living outside of the Kanto. The similar salaries--combined with the lower cost of living--result in a greater savings potential. |
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taikibansei
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| ssjup81 wrote: |
It's the opposite for me. I was making close to ¥300,000 in Yamagata. Since moving down here, my pay has been abysmal and I'm still looking for something better. I'm not used of being nearly broke every month. |
It's not just you. Employers in the Tokyo area tend to pay less comparatively because they can get away with it--a lot more foreigners vying for these positions (and the opportunity to live in Tokyo). If you can put up with the inconveniences associated with living outside the Kanto (far fewer English speakers, less convenient public transportation, less varied nightlife, etc.), then it is often a good financial decision to do so. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| taikibansei wrote: |
| Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
| What is frustrating about Japan for me is that if you want to live somewhere else other than the Kanto region, you will, in most cases, suffer a pay cut. |
This will be news to many people living outside the Kanto area. E.g., the higher paying universities tend to be found in the Kansai area. Moreover, national and prefectural universities tend to pay the same regardless of region.
People actually in Japan often find it easier to save money living outside of the Kanto. The similar salaries--combined with the lower cost of living--result in a greater savings potential. |
I was looking at the salaries of language schools. In Osaka, many are paying pitiful salaries like 180,000 ~ 220,000 yen a month.
I recon Tokyo language schools have to pay more, because of the higher cost of living.
As for the uni jobs in the Kansai, I was not even considering them because I have only a BA and I think they don't even consider anybody who has less than a Masters. |
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mitsui
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