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plumpy nut
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| A visa that is not an employment visa cannot be turned into an employment visa. Your being lied to. In order to get an employment visa you have to be located in your home country and spending a lot of money on top of that. There is an advantage though to working on a non-employment visa, you can do a midnight run if you want or need to. |
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worldtraveler411
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:28 pm Post subject: It's a Business Visa, I don't know what's the difference |
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It's a Business Visa, I don't know what's the difference is between a Business visa and an employment visa.
Does anyone actually know? without guessing--that doesn't help.
I haven't gone the direct hire because it's so late in the game and I'm wanting to go ahead and get employed. |
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Karitos
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: It's a Business Visa, I don't know what's the difference |
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| worldtraveler411 wrote: |
It's a Business Visa, I don't know what's the difference is between a Business visa and an employment visa.
Does anyone actually know? without guessing--that doesn't help.
I haven't gone the direct hire because it's so late in the game and I'm wanting to go ahead and get employed. |
The difference between business visa and employment visa is very clear from the Saudi govt and every visa agent...and lots of posts on here.
The sum of it is:
Business visas: not allowed to work or reside in KSA. (says it right on the visa)
Work Visas/Iqama: allowed to work and reside in KSA.
The former are easy to get, the latter not so much. |
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rosalind
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| A visa that is not an employment visa cannot be turned into an employment visa. Your being lied to. In order to get an employment visa you have to be located in your home country and spending a lot of money on top of that. There is an advantage though to working on a non-employment visa, you can do a midnight run if you want or need to. |
I'm not sure whom you're addressing here. Is it me?
If so, then, no, I don't think I'm being lied to. The employer explicitly states, and current employees I have spoken with confirm, that the employer will send me back to my home country, at their expense, to finish processing the work residence visa when the visa becomes available. (The visa is already in process with a U.S.-based agency.) Other employees confirm that this is the case (and that pay is not suspended during this period).
They want to hire me for a two-year contract, so I guess they think it's worthwhile to do things this way. (And, I suppose, when I get the work residence visa, they can stop sending me to Bahrain every month to renew the work visit one.) |
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plumpy nut
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| I suppose your company could be willing to pay all the costs of sending you back home including an expensive doctors fee, lab fees. living costs for a month maybe a lot more and a visa agent. Most companies lie about that, and you might trust the word of former employers, but be aware Arab employers have a reputation for lying thru their teeth. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:22 am Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| I suppose your company could be willing to pay all the costs of sending you back home including an expensive doctors fee, lab fees. living costs for a month maybe a lot more and a visa agent. Most companies lie about that, and you might trust the word of former employers, but be aware Arab employers have a reputation for lying thru their teeth. |
Plumpy, this is a university direct-hire situation and not through EdEx, ICEAT, QEHC, and the like. |
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rosalind
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| Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| I suppose your company could be willing to pay all the costs of sending you back home including an expensive doctors fee, lab fees. living costs for a month maybe a lot more and a visa agent. Most companies lie about that, and you might trust the word of former employers, but be aware Arab employers have a reputation for lying thru their teeth. |
plumpy nut, I don't think they're offering to cover "living fees," but will cover the cost of airfare there and back. Since I will still be on the payroll, an employee I spoke with suggested thinking of it as a "paid vacation." (I would stay with friends or family while back home, as I usually do.)
The employer has a specific reimbursement schedule for visa costs (including the medical and lab fees and the visa agent), which the employee is expected to pay up front but which will then be reimbursed. I've just put in for reimbursement for my initial outlays, so we'll see how this goes.
I have, indeed, been hearing a lot of stories about various employers. As nomad soul highlights, this is a direct-hire situation: my employer is the university, not a contracting organization.
Everything is early days yet, but I am cautiously optimistic. We will see how things go. |
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