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TMD67
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 Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:49 pm Post subject: Current, Reliable information |
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I'm trying to find a TEFL job without a degree.
I've done a lot of research and I'm constantly running across things like paid internships in China (without a proper visa) and other such things.
I'm seeing these advertisements from places claiming to be schools or ESL organisations. I'm not going to post them here. This is my first post and I don't want to point fingers.
It's really hard to know what is true when there is so much false or misleading information out there from supposed schools.
Am I correct that the only places I can hope to teach, LEGALLY, without a degree are:
Cambodia, Mexico, Part of South America, and Russia?
The other exception I heard (from the school I plan to attend) that Czech Republic will allow a business visa to teach provided you can prove you have enough money to support yourself and get started. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| TMD67 wrote: |
I'm trying to find a TEFL job without a degree.
Am I correct that the only places I can hope to teach, LEGALLY, without a degree are:
Cambodia, Mexico, Part of South America, and Russia? |
Internships and gap year gigs require you to be a student. So if you're presently completing a degree, that's an option for you. However, if you're not pursuing a degree, then, yes, the countries you listed and possibly Europe (depending on your nationality) offer legal employment. You very likely have to be in country to look for work.
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| The other exception I heard (from the school I plan to attend) that Czech Republic will allow a business visa to teach provided you can prove you have enough money to support yourself and get started. |
It's unclear what you mean by the "school I plan to attend." Are you referring to a CELTA or TEFL course provider in the Czech Rep? And why a business visa? 
I suggest you post your Czech Republic/Europe questions on the specific countries. Otherwise, wait for spiral78 to respond on this thread. |
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TMD67
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
It's unclear what you mean by the "school I plan to attend." Are you referring to a CELTA or TEFL course provider in the Czech Rep? And why a business visa?
I suggest you post your Czech Republic/Europe questions on the specific countries. Otherwise, wait for spiral78 to respond on this thread. |
I have no questions specifically about the Czech republic. I was just stating that in order to teach there you have to get a business visa and have letter from your bank that shows you have $4500 in your account. You also have to file for a tax id number and a few other things.
I can only assume that they hire you to teach and 10-99 you. Which is what it is called in the US and considered a freelancer contractor.
I was just trying to verify the options that I felt I had in order teach with no degree, legally. |
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Shelby
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:32 am Post subject: |
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| Russia is definitely an option. Most advertisements will say that a degree is required but it is not a legal requirement for the visa and, at the moment, it is not an employer's market so many will consider you. Russian schools also usually hire from abroad. |
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TMD67
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| Shelby wrote: |
| Russia is definitely an option. Most advertisements will say that a degree is required but it is not a legal requirement for the visa and, at the moment, it is not an employer's market so many will consider you. Russian schools also usually hire from abroad. |
It is a serious consideration for me. I've actually been researching life in Russia. |
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DMcK
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| It depends on your nationality status. If you qualify for an EU passport (maybe you have some Italian ancestor for example - I hear they're willing to take all comers) you can obviously work anywhere in Europe. If you have a CELTA you'll find work. In Spain you don't need a degree, and actually there are plenty of North American 'illegals' working in Spain quite comfortably. |
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TMD67
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| Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| DMcK wrote: |
| It depends on your nationality status. If you qualify for an EU passport (maybe you have some Italian ancestor for example - I hear they're willing to take all comers) you can obviously work anywhere in Europe. If you have a CELTA you'll find work. In Spain you don't need a degree, and actually there are plenty of North American 'illegals' working in Spain quite comfortably. |
I'm an American. I've heard about the situation in Spain with Americans overstaying. But they also deal with a lot of abuse with no rights. It really isn't something I would want to deal with. I prefer to go the legal route. IF I were to ever consider being an illegal someplace, it would be France. They are lax on immigration laws and the police don't seem to care. They have laws in place that even protect illegals.
I also speak enough french to survive outside of a city and I read French much better than I speak it.
Unfortunately, I believe that it is not common for France to hire ESL teachers under the table.
BTW, I am 3rd generation German and 4th English. My grandmother was first to be born in the US after her parents immigrated from Cologne, Germany. So there is no hope of claiming ancestry. |
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