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Hatcher
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 602
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:46 pm Post subject: Hang on to old passports |
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Mine was stored here and when I got home for a new visa, the consulate demanded it. I had to have someone send it over and it cost me a fortune in re-booking fees. |
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mackidrei
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:52 am Post subject: |
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yeah, the same happened to me in the consulate in toronto. apparently this regulation had been put in place starting the day i went to the consulate. i didn't have my old passport and applied for two day service anyway. the lady at the desk advised me against it, and told me to choose a cheaper option as it could take up to a month to process since i didn't also submit my old passport.
i still went with two day service and somehow managed to get my visa the next day. maybe they let it slide since it was the first day they put the regulation into place. |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:11 am Post subject: |
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You only need your old passport if it contains documents pertaining to China. If you have never been to China it is not needed. It makes sense, China wants your history of visiting, and seeing the actual visa/RP records with their numbers must be easier than searching through their, what I am guessing, impossible to search database. |
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mackidrei
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:06 am Post subject: |
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wangdaning wrote: |
You only need your old passport if it contains documents pertaining to China. If you have never been to China it is not needed. It makes sense, China wants your history of visiting, and seeing the actual visa/RP records with their numbers must be easier than searching through their, what I am guessing, impossible to search database. |
they said they wanted it regardless of whether or not it had old visas in it. at the point i went though it seemed like they weren't really sure of anything so just went with everyone needs to submit their old passport. |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:36 am Post subject: |
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How would they know if you had an old passport if you had never been to China? |
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Spelunker
Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Posts: 392
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:36 am Post subject: re: a good idea, but.... |
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When I was given a two week visa extension, yes two weeks, despite having two previous 6 month F visas, I was advised by the visa agent in Hong Kong to get a new passport. The mind boggles... |
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Shanghai Noon
Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Posts: 589 Location: Shanghai, China
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:12 am Post subject: |
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That's because the Chinese officials might reject your application on the suspicion that you were working illegally if they see two six-month business visas. |
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mackidrei
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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wangdaning wrote: |
How would they know if you had an old passport if you had never been to China? |
they asked. if you were honest, they'd know, if you weren't, they wouldn't. |
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Spelunker
Joined: 03 Nov 2013 Posts: 392
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:43 am Post subject: re: business visas |
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Not sure, but had worked legally before that, it's all a crock!!! |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:16 am Post subject: |
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mackidrei wrote: |
wangdaning wrote: |
How would they know if you had an old passport if you had never been to China? |
they asked. if you were honest, they'd know, if you weren't, they wouldn't. |
I guess if they don't look at the resume you sent the company, they wouldn't know whether or not you worked in China before. |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:37 am Post subject: |
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For fairly low paying jobs with no teacher in his right mind wanting to make China their next home or for that fact being offered such, they seem to be pretty inconsiderate about with their visa bureaucracy. Let the Great Helmsmen show the way. Who cares about how much money is spent and lost with documents and waiting time. China may be my next bashing endeavor on Dave's. I have plenty of other reasons to dislike China anyway.
Let a thousand flowers bloom. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:42 am Post subject: |
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plumpy nut wrote: |
For fairly low paying jobs with no teacher in his right mind wanting to make China their next home or for that fact being offered such, they seem to be pretty inconsiderate about with their visa bureaucracy. Let the Great Helmsmen show the way. Who cares about how much money is spent and lost with documents and waiting time. China may be my next bashing endeavor on Dave's. I have plenty of other reasons to dislike China anyway.
Let a thousand flowers bloom. |
Please spare us your pronouncements on China.
I see no evidence that you have anything worthwhile to contribute. |
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talentedcrayon
Joined: 19 Mar 2013 Posts: 91
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the heads up OP. I am applying for a tourist visa soon to go back and visit some people I met over the years. Didn't know about this. |
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jimpellow
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 913
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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talentedcrayon wrote: |
Thanks for the heads up OP. I am applying for a tourist visa soon to go back and visit some people I met over the years. Didn't know about this. |
Just another heads up. There is anecdotal evidence that you may be turned down for the tourist visa. They may believe that you are in fact returning to work illegally.
I wanted to do the same when I was living in the Philippines but decided against doing so, and of course would have needed to return to the US for the privilege of even applying.
This may have changed as it has been two plus years, but you may want to research this before expending the time and expense to be denied with no reason given and no fees returned.
If true, you may want to look at the transit free visa. |
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BruceLeeWannaBe
Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 210
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Just tell them when you applied to renew your passport through the simplified renewal forum in Canada, you had to send in your old passport and they didn't return your old one.
If your old one was cut up by authorities, how were you supposed to know you would possibly need it?
Personally I think it's just the authorities on a power trip to keep out as many of us possible. Many would tell me it's a conspiracy but one of my old friends did tell me that someone higher up who he knew told him in a conversation authorities are doing stuff like this to keep out as many of us possible. |
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