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thedude72



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:41 am    Post subject: JET - Looking for more info Reply with quote

Hello there,

As a Newbie, I am looking for more information about the JET Programme. I would like further details about the positives and negatives of the program.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Thanks
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to www.bigdaikon.com and take everything you read there with a grain of salt. It's summer and people have just arrived. So some haven't been in class yet. But they're sitting around at their Board of Education (with nothing to do). Others who have been here for a year or two are also sitting around at the BoE with very little/ nothing to do.

Applications won't be out for a month or two yet.

good luck.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am looking for more information about the JET Programme.


What do you already know? That's a pretty general question.

Positives
They pay airfare. Extremely few other employers do.
They provide housing, often with very low rent, lower than most places. Some JET ALTs have even claimed to get rent for free.
They provide orientation upon landing with other JETs, and they offer supplemental training/seminars during the year.
Their salary (3.6 million yen/year) is more than most conversation schools (eikaiwas) [3 million yen/year].
They sponsor your work visa. Not all other employers do.
Your work hours are roughly 9 to 4. With most eikaiwas, you work from noon to 9pm. JET hours permit more freedom for after school activities and/or picking up private lessons.
The job itself (ALT) does not often require much planning or execution of lessons. You assist more than teach. As a result, you have fewer obligations in the classroom, and you have more free time during the day.
You have a greater chance to be placed in a rural environment, which is great for getting to know the "real Japan" and learning the language.
You may also be expected to join in various community activities as an English-speaking liaison of sorts.
You don't need more than a bachelor's degree in any subject.

Negatives
You are not a real teacher, so if you have any notions of doing full-time teacher's duties, that is not really possible. You might not even get hired because of your teaching credentials.
The orientation has not always received the best praise.
Housing is not always the best. Depends on location.
You may have to visit several schools during the month. This means 2 things. You won't have the consistency in getting to know students or Japanese teachers, and you might have to learn how to drive here.
The visa itself is for only 3 years (perhaps 4 years max).
The visa (Instructor status) cannot be used for other types of schools, so you would have to change it if you quit JET and get hired by someone else.
Some JET ALTs have complained about the free time. They don't know what to do with it or themselves. See www.bigdaikon.com
Living in the countryside may be negative if you don't like isolation from other native English speakers or city benefits (shopping, theaters, etc.), or if you can't handle the language. Living in a small town also puts you under a microscope from the locals; they will ultimately know everything you say and do.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski,

you also forgot to mention that you get your national pension payments refunded to you after you return to your home country. For someone here 3 years this works out an average of 3 months salary or about 900,000 yen.

Have been doing a bit of holiday reading about team-teaching in general and how one does on JET can come down to a number of factors but I think the most important one is ones personal attitude and how you get on with the Japanese English teachers you are assigned to. Whatever you think of their English ability or the Japanese education system in general, it is their system, and you have to work within it, and the only reason you are there is becuase it doesnt work. rather than knock the teachers English or the poor level of the students work to improve and change things. Many JETs treat the program like a government subsidised holiday at taxpayer expense. You may not have any teaching experience, but many teachers report that JETs show no interest in education, no interest in their students, make little or no effort to work with the JTE and turn up ten minutes before class. Sometimes the JET can plan a lesson and the JTE will ignore it completely or show no interest in co-operating with JETs whom they see as highly paid amateurs. the teacher you will work with has a 4 year degree, a teaching licence and up to 20 years teaching experience. The JET meanwhile has zilch except native ability and the right colour passport.

Most JTEs do not actually get any training on how to work with JET teachers and a lot of it seat of the pants type thing, and as they may only see them once a month it is hard to get a feel for the JETs approach etc. If you can be pro-active, make an effort to find out what the JTE wants, how they structure the classes, what is expected of you it wil make things easier. Often problems occur because of miscommunication and misplaced expectations of your function and role in the classes. What you think you ought to be doing is different than what they want you to do. Communication can often solve this.
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thedude72



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski and Paul,

Thanks for all the info. I know I asked a very general question, but I really knew nothing about the JET Programme and thanks to you guys, now I do.

I am from Canada, 32 years old, have a BA in Criminology, but have no prior teaching experience. Would I be a suitable candidate for JET?

Can someone explain the application and interview process to me? I read somewhere that you have to go to Japan and pay your own expenses just for the interview.

Thanks
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thedude72 wrote:

Can someone explain the application and interview process to me? I read somewhere that you have to go to Japan and pay your own expenses just for the interview.

Thanks


I have never been on JET but applications are handled through the embassy or consulate in your country. You dont need to fly to japan for an interview. You may be required to pay for transportation costs and hotel accomodation if you have to travel to a different city for interviews, but otherwise if you are accepted they (or the Japanese government) will provide you with a return airfare to Japan and connecting passage to your host city. Once you arrive you will have a 3-day orientation at a large hotel in Tokyo before being sent to your final destination.

I guess you could consider it an all-expenses paid junket to Japan but that is the way the JET people (or CLAIR as the official organisers are known) do things.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eligibility
All applicants must:

* hold a Bachelor's degree in any subject by July of the year of departure;
* be a citizen of the country where the recruitment and selection procedures take place;
* have excellent skills in the designated language (both written and spoken). (For English-speaking countries this is English, and for non-English speaking countries it is English or the principal language);
* have a keen interest in the country and culture of Japan;
* in principle, be under 40 years of age;
* not have lived in Japan for 3 or more of the last 8 years, nor be a former participant in the programme for the last 10 years.
For ALT applicants in English-speaking countries:

* TEFL qualification is helpful, but not required.

* Duration is for one year, ending in July or August of the year following departure.
* In principal, renewable for up to two additional years with the mutual consent of the contracting organization and the participant. It is also possible to re-contract in some Host Prefectures, Designated Cities for a fourth or fifth year.
* Participants normally work a 35-hour work-week (Monday to Friday).
Remuneration:
Approximately 3,600,000 yen per annum after Japanese taxes are deducted. (This amount is sufficient to cover normal expenses for a single person, including rent and compulsory insurance payments).

Insurance:
Participants are required to pay about 40,000 yen per month to cover mandatory health insurance, employment insurance and pension fund costs. Accident insurance is also provided in this cost.

Accommodation *:
Participants will be provided with adequate housing information from their contracting organizations. Rents can vary greatly, but normally run between 30,000 yen - 60,000 yen per month.

Transportation:
Round-trip air tickets to Japan are usually provided.

Holidays *:
Japanese national holidays (15 days), plus at least 10 additional days (usually 12 to 20) of paid leave.

Placement:
Participants are placed in cities, towns and villages throughout Japan. Candidates can indicate placement preferences on the application form, but fulfillment of these requests is not guaranteed.
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thedude72



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

Thanks for providing all of this info, it is much appreciated.

Overall, factoring in everything, JET seems like a positive experience. The positives seem to far outweight the negatives.

What sorts of questions can I expect in an interview to prepare myself? The competition to get into this program must be fierce.

I read about NOVA, and it got bashed pretty hard on this forum. Do you know anything about the other placement services, like AEON? Do any of them compare to JET?

Thanks
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thedude72 wrote:
Paul,

Overall, factoring in everything, JET seems like a positive experience. The positives seem to far outweight the negatives.

What sorts of questions can I expect in an interview to prepare myself? The competition to get into this program must be fierce.

I read about NOVA, and it got bashed pretty hard on this forum. Do you know anything about the other placement services, like AEON? Do any of them compare to JET?

Thanks


If you mail Glenski he will send you a 1MB spreadsheet that details the differences between the different language schools. Too much to go into here.

I wont go into a rundown here but a good site to look at on NOVA is

http://www.vocaro.com/trevor/japan/nova/level_up.html

Most of the stuff your read on here about NOVA is by disgruntled, inexperienced newbies who have never had a full time job and never lived overseas before. Many have never taught English before and dont speak Japanese. Some truth in what people say but you have to keep things in perspective. Satisfied people dont write about on bulletin boards, and you have teachers at NOVA working 7 or 8 years.

AEON and NOVA are not a placement agency, they are a privately run commercial language school, with profit as its main raison d'etre, that hires and recruits teachers overseas to work in its schools in Japan. They do not use a third party outside agency when hiring teachers.

JET is not a school or a business or a scheme but a government funded exchange program. JET employs over 5000 teachers from over 30 countries to work in high schools all over Japan. Conditions differ from private language schools so i suggest you PM Glenski for the Excel spreadsheet.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you mail Glenski he will send you a 1MB spreadsheet that details the differences between the different language schools. Too much to go into here.


That spreadsheet covers much more than just a comparison of schools. And, just for the record, the comparison is only of the Big Four plus JET. All I did was compile what was on their web site FAQs and put it on Excel to make it easier to look at all at once.

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Overall, factoring in everything, JET seems like a positive experience. The positives seem to far outweight the negatives.
What sorts of questions can I expect in an interview to prepare myself?

Why do you want to work in Japan?
How well do you think you'll adjust to the difference in culture?
What do you know about Japan?
How good is your Japanese (be prepared to be tested)?
Why are you suited for this type of work?
And, the bonus question... expect a wild card type of scenario. They will tell you that you should imagine your students have suddenly popped up with a question in the middle of your lesson. You have 30 seconds to prepare for an answer, and you have a minute to deliver it, using a pad of paper to simulate a blackboard if you wish. That wild card could be just about anything. Don't expect it to be on English grammar, that's for sure!
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might just add that essentially, the 5 big conversation schools that operate in japan are cut from the same cloth, chase after the same teacher candidates (many get turned down with NOVA and get a job with GEOS or apply to 2 or 3 schools). There are only marginal differences between them, but some offer better deals on things like insurance, housing, holidays, salaries and bonuses, etc. You will find if you quit one company you will find the others are not that much different in practical terms, salary etc and people are now finding they may get paid less as full time jobs are harder to get and part time jobs are paying less.

JET is a different ball of wax as essentially you are hired by the local education board to teach in 2 or 3 high schools in your area. you may see each group of students once or twice a month. At a conversation school you can teach anything from 6-year olds to grandmothers, you will get a greater variety of levels of ability and proficiency. Students are more motivated as they are paying through the nose for lessons and in most cases students want to be there. In a JET high school class you have a captive class of 13-14 year olds, 40 to a class and for many of them they have never met or spoken to a foreigner before. If you live in a small town you may be the only foreigner living in your neighborhood. For many JETs the attention can be overwhelming and you will treated like a minor celebrity. I dont have time to go into it now, but it can go to your head as well as dealing with culture shock, not understanding the language, feelings of isolation, alienation etc. All in all a positive experience for most JETs as more than 50% renew their one year contracts. You have no control over where you are places- they send you where they need people and you can not cherry pick locations. You may get where your request but its more pure luck and timing.


NOt sure about an interview but what the schools generally look for is sociable, outgoing, well-adjusted people who could cope with living in a foreign culture, be able to deal with homesickness etc. Japanese ability is not required as they donte xpect you to speak Japanese and you wont use it much in the classroom anyway.

They generally like people to be 'blank slates' as the focus is on getting students to ask you about your country or getting them to describe their culture likes and dislikes in English. If you are a japan expert, speak Japanese or appear knowledgeable about Japanese customs, or some how appear 'japanised' it can be a bit of a negative in an interview. Play dumb, be interested in the culture but dont come off as a japan expert. be energetic, outgoing friendly and you will do well, i think.
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Celeste



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't agree more with Paul about the interview techniques. I am on the JET programme and entering my 3rd year. I think the most important thing to emphasize is your fascination about Japan.

THe JET application process is really long, but I believe it is done this way in part to weed out those who are not 100% committed to going to Japan. (They don't want to waste time and money on someone who is going to bail out after a few months.

The JET application form is 35 pages long and includes a 500 word essay section about why you want to live in Japan. The applications become available in October, are due in November sometime, and the first round is culled in february. Interviews are in late MArch. Acceptance and placements are in May. You get on the plane at the end of July or the beginning of August. It is a really long red-tape filled process. (But speaking as a current JET, I would have to say it's worth it).
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a copy of "Importing Diversity" http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/item.asp?Item=978052021636&Catalog=Books&N=35&Lang=en&Section=books&zxac=1

Also, from archives in another relevant discussion page mentioned a few times above:

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Hey all,

I really appreciated the advice I got from BigDaikon when I was applying to JET, and I want to offer the same advice to new potentials.

Take it as you may. Most of this was gleaned from other JETs, from books, and from my own experience. I apologize for the length, but I think that it will be helpful.

1. The application process is not random - Don't buy into this particular myth. It looks random due to the enormous numbers of applicants/interviewers, but there are things you can do to increase/decrease your chances. If you want to believe it is random, by all means stop reading and throw the dice. Maybe you will get lucky. The rest of you, seize your own destiny and continue reading.

2. You application should be "What you can do for JET" instead of "What JET can do for you." Remember, are selling yourself as a good candidate, someone they want to hire. Why should they give this choice job to you? What are your qualifications, your advantages? There should be a dash of what you plan to achieve from JET, what your goals are. This shows that you are serious and think about the future. But, the bulk of you application should be an advertisement for you.

3. JET is looking for generalists - This is pretty important to know when preparing your resume. Because of the wide and varied needs of the JET program, they need JETs that are Jack-of-all-Trades types, who can jump into a number of different situations with ease. Focusing too much on one aspect of your application can hurt you.

In general, they are looking for:

A. Interest/experience with Japan - There are ALTs who are fluent, and there are ALTs with little language ability. But they have all demonstrated some interest in Japan. It is often said that too much knowledge about Japan can hurt your application, and this is a little true. After all, the last thing Japan needs is more experts on Japanese language and culture. They have plenty, thank you. That being said, It is OK to have a ton of Japanese experience/knowledge. Just don't expect that to put you through the door. Balance it out with your other traits.

B. Teaching experience/working with kids - There are JETs who are career English teachers, and there are JETs who have only done a tiny bit. Again, generalists. A little teaching is great. A laser-like focus is not. If you don't have any teaching experience, get some. Volunteer at a community center. Get some experience. If you are a career teacher, great! Look at the other categories for balance.

C. International experience - The trait most JETs have in common is being well-traveled. Many of us have lived abroad before. If you have never left your county, try to find some international experience at home. International festivals, community centers, do what you can. This is important. Along with this should come knowledge/interest in international news and events. Internationalization is one of the key goals of JET. Be an international citizen.

D. Professionalism - Present yourself as a professional, applying for a professional position. JET is a job, not a school exchange program. You are no longer a student. Along with this, interest in Anime/Manga is not considered professional. Leave your cosplay in the closet.

E. Personality/Personal attributes - This is what sets you out from the pack. Are you a tap dancer? Do you do magic? Play baseball? Any transferable skills that you possess make you a better candidate. More of this qualification shows up in your interview, but it never hurts to set the stage for yourself in the application.

Be a generalist in all of these categories, and you are well on your way.

4. Choose your location strategically. - Your location request not only says where you want to go, it also says something about how much you know about Japan. Putting either Tokyo, Kyoto or Osaka on your application is like marking in bright red ink "I ONLY KNOW THE FAMOUS PLACES. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT JAPAN." You won't get placed at any of these cities, so don't waste precious application space with them.

A. Sister Cities - Find out if your home has a sister city in Japan. That should be one of your placement requests. You stand a better chance of getting placed in your sister city, plus it shows that you know something about your home and Japan.

B. Small Cities/Towns - Check 'em out on the internet. My city has a website, in English. Many do, and it is a good place to locate them. Research!

C. Regions - If you can't narrow down a small town or city, go for a region. Check out the history, weather and all of that. What are you interested in doing in Japan? Just don't put "I want to go to such-and-such because it is near Tokyo, Osaka or Kyoto."

Of course, there is no guarantee that you will be placed in any specific place, but your location request does still count. That being said, while I didn't get my first choice placement I did get placed 30 minutes away and it is very cool.

5. Bookmark japantoday.com, and start reading it everyday. Familiarity with the politics, weather and current events of the country that you would like to live in are just a no-brainer. Be interested. Plus, in your interview you might get asked some current events type questions. I did, and I was glad that I had been reading japantoday.com

6. Volunteer with a local Japan/America Society - If you have one, this is a big boost. Not only does it look good on your application, but you also have the potential to meet and greet some future interviewers.

7. Do some research - Read books like "Importing Diversity" and "Teaching English: Japan." There are some grains of wisdom in many books on Japan. "Importing Diversity" contains an outline of the application process that would be good to know.

8. Your application is a full package - Your application, reference letters, and essay should all speak to each other. If there is an important job you held that you think qualifies you as and English teacher, get a reference from that job. A class you took? Get a reference from that teacher. Present a united front.

9. Get several professional people to proofread your package - Hopefully you know someone who hires as part of there regular job duties. Get that person to read your application package. Get a professor to proofread. The application checker should not be the first person to read your package.

10. Don't worry about the interview yet - First things first. Get the interview. Then we will talk.

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Know your statement of purpose inside out - I got questioned on a certain sentence I had written in mine and part of the reason I impressed at my interview was because I could back up that point and discuss it with them (for interest sake it was re the social guidelines of living here)

also, it sounds trite, but approach this thing with an open mind, every situation, every JET, every school, every apartment, everything differs situation to situation, and so just because you hear someone had a good time in such and such a place, look at WHY you really want to go there in particular

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v gd advice but three small modifications and one additions...

On point 3B - some JETS also have no teaching experience at all - obviously this is a disadvantage but it is still possible to get on with (I have none - instead I stressed in the application on how I was interested in going into teaching in the future)

On 4 it is also entirely acceptble to not express a preference (I didn`t and wasn`t asked why not. If I had been I would have replied that I was interested in teaching in Japan period and would be happy to go wherever they thought I`d fit best). But do make sure you have heard of
a few good places to mention at interview outside the obvious ones in case they decide to test whether your not putting a preference was because you know nothing about Japan

And on 5: Read Japan today but also read the normal
Papers closely for the week or so before the interview if you don`t alredy because stories in those about Japan and the ones you are most likely to be asked about (because they expect you to read the papers and be interested in Japan stories within)

Extra point: Don`t use up all your examples in your statement (e.g. if you have 3 things that really interest you about Japan, mention 2 at most) because you may well be asked at interview `you say you`re interested in Taiko, Anime and Sumo: what else interests you about Japanese culture?`. This happened to a friend who wished she`d left one of her examples out...(she got reserve list and made it in the end)

Oh and feel free to ignore my ramblings because I was reserve list too so I can`t have done it all right Smile


You could also look for interview questions on the internet. I'm sure they are there. Occasionally somebody actually puts their cover letter/written statement on the internet. If (or when) interviewers find it, they red-flag it and if that essay shows up, the applicant is rejected (so do not put your essay on-line)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry folks, but you'll be treated better in korea and as a real teacher with many great perks and loads of payed holiday. japan is an hour away by plane. the public school program in korea is called epik.
cheers.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I recognize some of you from another forum!! Ha ha, how funny!

Anyways, I have a question about JET.. I'm 26 and I graduated from college back in 2001. According to Monster.com I am classified as "Mid-Career" (versus entry level). So, I'm wondering if this is a disadvantage when applying for JET, like do they specifically seek out entry level college grads, or is it not necessarily a bad thing or even potentially a good thing that I've got real world work experience?

Thanks! The information on this thread is so helpful, I'm feeling a lot more confident about the application process thanks to this information!!
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