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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Gamajorba,

We get it. Your experience in Saudi was negative. Not everyone will have that, Please drop it already. Very Happy

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John
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference is that nomad soul talks only about her personal experiences and admits that the experiences of others can be very different - which is especially likely if, lacking good qualifications and/or experience, they get a position (often without doing much, if any, research) through a contractor /recruiter and/or go over on a business visa.

Then, their personal experience sometimes becomes "the truth" for every single EFL job in Saudi.

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John
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sheikh radlinrol



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Location: Spain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

balqis wrote:
But since the next poster has already started chasing me for my point with a claim that he is in charge of standards of what is and what is not comprehensible, I will write no more.

balqis

Nonsense! I certainly don´t claim to be in charge of what is and what is not comprehensible. I just found your comment impossible to understand. Please remember that I afforded you the courtesy of reading it.
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al-Californian



Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:26 am    Post subject: Trolls belong under the bridge Reply with quote

This is a big thank you to all the crybaby trolls that leave their dwellings to destroy any opportunity of learning about a potential gig! Way to go!
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BajaLaJaula



Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately very little specific and relevant information gets posted on Dave's anymore. The regulars have good general info albeit outdated, but those that are currently and happily employed rarely return to this site to help out others with updated info.
So what you get are the same folks commenting the same info over and over....some are genuinely trying to be helpful while others are still bitter and use this forum to vent.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or to educate. there are some major points or warnings that apply to all Saudi ESL jobs either because of the unethical requirements that the slave-minded Saudis all of a sudden spring up on their victims late in the hiring process, or because after a couple of months on the job, Ali Alghatani feels that you are a threat to the traditional Saudi method of free hand outs. There are many warnings that apply to all ESL jobs in Saudi Arabia that prospective applicants need to hear about. Not everybody on Dave's is an adherent to ultraliberal multiculturalism.

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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or in Nutty's case to warn us that we must never trust Saracens and Moors.
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sheikh radlinrol



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plumpy nut wrote:
There are many warnings that apply to all ESL jobs in Saudi Arabia that prospective applicants need to hear about.

For example? I held an ESL job in KSA and left without a single complaint about my employer. My contract was honoured to the letter and my salary paid promptly every month that I was there. I realise that this isn´t always the case and that there are bad employers in the Kingdom but let´s not generalise.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear sheikh,

Useless advice, I'm afraid. Mr. Nut is the five-star general of generalizations. Very Happy

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John
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gregory999



Joined: 29 Jul 2015
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear john

Mr Nut has been promoted to the grade of six-star general of generalisations of all Armies of generalisations. Laughing Laughing

Warm Regards,

Gregory999 the six-star general of anti-generalisations, anti-racism, anti-sexism, and anti-regionalism. Laughing
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izmigari



Joined: 04 Feb 2016
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Location: Rubbing shoulders with the 8-Ball in the top left pocket

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dearest Yahya & scot (I refuse to address 007 in a civil manner):

We all (the elders) realize (or should) that as regressive a place to work, Sowdy is (and promises to be) a much more regressive work environment than in our day.

While the Sowdy of the past required a HUGE amount of patience, realization that expectation was ill-advised, and ever-darkening humour development, it is, now, a wasteland, a refuge for the desperate and the disillusioned...such as PN.

I am so glad that I was there when one could prosper and set myself up for today.

And SO glad I left before the jade set, indelibly, in.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there, then, no Franks with their wits about them left in Saudi Arabia ? Have we all left ?
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izmigari



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Are there, then, no Franks with their wits about them left in Saudi Arabia ? Have we all left ?


Oh, they're there all right. They just work in military programs. The pilgrims of which I speak are the ones anxious enough to take up with the likes of contractors and recruiters.

You know, the exploited lot. As they say, you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

What's not to love? Evil or Very Mad
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My observation was that those on military contracts do not often post here. They are probably worried about what their witless military superiors might think.
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RustyShackleford



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone who left this position a while ago, just chiming to say that it's a perfectly serviceable position. Do your job; keep the cadets happy; don't cause trouble for the establishment(s) and it's a decent life as far as KSA goes. The compound is pretty nicely equipped. It's not without its issues but I thought they did more right than they did wrong. Smile

Overall, if one goes to the kingdom for the salary, this is one of the better entry-level gigs.
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