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brnrd
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 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:22 am Post subject: Is just showing up in a country still feasible? |
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In the old days before the internet, it kind of was necessary,or at least reasonable to do so.
What about now? Where?
(Now,there's fewer countries to chose from as well)
Turkey? I don't think so.
Spain,Portugal,Italy? Maybe,but too few jobs?
Russia? Visa problem,I'd say
Poland? Not sure
China? No,the visa!
Korea? No,the visa!
Thailand? Maybe
Myanmar? Not sure
Anyhow, feedback & suggestions appreciated.
Cheers,
WW |
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suphanburi
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:18 am Post subject: Re: Is just showing up in a country still feasible? |
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| brnrd wrote: |
In the old days before the internet, it kind of was necessary,or at least reasonable to do so.
What about now? Where?
(Now,there's fewer countries to chose from as well)
Turkey? I don't think so.
Spain,Portugal,Italy? Maybe,but too few jobs?
Russia? Visa problem,I'd say
Poland? Not sure
China? No,the visa!
Korea? No,the visa!
Thailand? Maybe
Myanmar? Not sure
Anyhow, feedback & suggestions appreciated.
Cheers,
WW |
China and Korea you need a recruiter for most jobs and to assist with the visa issues.
Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, Taiwan, Japan and Thailand you can pretty much show up, find a job and do a visa run to get the appropriate visa or do a change of status at your local immigration office from tourist to work visa.
You may need a tourist visa, visa on arrival or visa free entry some of them depending on your country of passport. Costs will also vary depending on your nationality (cheaper for EU and Canadians and more expensive for Americans).
You DO need to bring your original documents with you (degree, transcript and police check) if you plan to be legal rather than work on a tourist stamp and border runs. Most countries do not require your documents to be legalized before presented. Korea is the exception and they require the degree and police check to have an apostille.
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: On a Short Leash
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Spain,Portugal,Italy? Maybe,but too few jobs?
Russia? Visa problem,I'd say
Poland? Not sure |
Spain, Portugal, Italy (assuming you are an EU member citizen - at least at the moment, including UK!) you can walk in, but first of September is more feasible.
Russia, need visa
Poland (and Czech Rep and surrounding countries), same as Spain, Portugal, Italy - go first of September and you are likely to find something.
But none of the jobs will be great; expect long hours and subsistence pay. The few better jobs around go to people who are in the area long term and have built up local creds, contacts, and language skills. |
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brnrd
Joined: 23 Dec 2013
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Hello Spiral again...
I can't believe people still talk about the "backpacker" ESL-er I think due to the economics, they died out 15 years ago? If not longer.
Look you go into a Giant Tiger at age 53 with a resume that lists all nice and pretty university,DOS Yada yada..on your CV and it goes back to the 1990s Guess what? You don't even get an interview.That's what I did when I realized I wasn't home for a short visit.
I had to bite my tongue 2 years ago when I took the CELTA,because I knew what ESL was really about...The only pleasure I got,was at the course's end,when the CEO or manager came in to the class to talk about opportunities at that very language centre -You should have seen those newbie jaws drop when he mentioned $17 an hour in freaking downtown Toronto! BTW, more and more B.Eds/PCGEs are taking simple ESL jobs in China...Who'd have thunk that? I did in a posting back in 1999-2002.
I might renew my Irish passport into an EU one
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: On a Short Leash
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| I can't believe people still talk about the "backpacker" ESL-er I think due to the economics, they died out 15 years ago? If not longer. |
Hi, brnd:-)
Yeah, it's not about 'backpackers' anymore, IMO. It's more about sticking around somewhere long enough to develop a local rep. In CEE, where I've been mostly based for some time, there are a few better jobs around, but it takes time and effort to work your way into one. The one-year people, even with a CELTA, get the subsistence-level, split-shifts, multiple-contract gigs.
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| The only pleasure I got was at the course's end, when the CEO or manager came in to the class to talk about opportunities at that very language centre -You should have seen those newbie jaws drop when he mentioned $17 an hour in freaking downtown Toronto! |
If you did it at SOL (yes, they don't seem to get the more typical meaning of the acronym, hehehehe), they have a reputation for being super-cheap to their teachers. $17/hour is low even for Toronto... |
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