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Immersion programs (for us)

 
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RedLightning



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Immersion programs (for us) Reply with quote

I'll be finishing out a contract in the next few weeks and will have several months of free time on my hands. For both personal and professional reasons(as a language teacher myself), I'd like to learn another language and am considering an immersion program. While I'd like to learn Arabic/Chinese, I feel as though Spanish would probably be a little easier and for that reason alone am leaning in that direction.
Do any of you have experience with such programs (Spanish or otherwise)?
Thoughts? Comments?
Thank you
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly recommend immersion programs. I learned the bulk of my languages through a variety of immersion.
For bang for your buck the best place to go is Guatemala. There are many cheap high quality courses there. Ecuador and Mexico are also popular destination. If you decide on Oaxaca, Mexico I can suggest a couple of schools.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can be blast! I did a few programs in French. If you get a great teacher, you'll also pick up some teaching ideas along the way. If you get a bad teacher, it can be infuriating Evil or Very Mad
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But most teachers are not "great" Many are mediocre !
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Hod



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Scot!

To enrol on a language course takes time with level testing, etc, and the course may not start for several weeks. To then end up with a lemon of a teacher is enough for many students to give up at that point.

It's ten times worse for us great teachers because we can see every bad habit, cringe at TTT and recognise boredom on other students' faces.

The answer is one-to-one classes. You will have headaches and soon be sick of the sight of your teacher (it will be mutual), but you will learn at your own selfish pace, free of others and their daft questions, but you will learn.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod is clearly a genius. I am glad that he agrees with me.
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RedLightning



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
I highly recommend immersion programs. I learned the bulk of my languages through a variety of immersion.
For bang for your buck the best place to go is Guatemala. There are many cheap high quality courses there. Ecuador and Mexico are also popular destination. If you decide on Oaxaca, Mexico I can suggest a couple of schools.

I wouldn't mind Mexico or Guatemala, I'll take any suggestions you have. Thanks
Hod wrote:
I agree with Scot!
The answer is one-to-one classes. You will have headaches and soon be sick of the sight of your teacher (it will be mutual), but you will learn at your own selfish pace, free of others and their daft questions, but you will learn.


So you think a private tutor would work best?
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Hod



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't think of many disadvantages. Even the cost isn't a factor as one or two hours a day is more than enough. You can also find a teacher faster and begin lessons sooner.

I'm sure there's research on the benefits of one to one or otherwise, but I'll leave the conference attenders on here to address such matters. All I know is it worked for me (learning German) whereas learning Spanish in a class at Cervantes was a waste of my time and money.
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedLightning wrote:

I wouldn't mind Mexico or Guatemala, I'll take any suggestions you have. Thanks



I invite you to ask this in the Mexico Off topic forum so you don't just get my opinion.

If you are interested in academic credit, you can't beat the program at UNAM http://www.cepe.unam.mx/

If credit is not an issue to you then I recommend
http://www.icomexico.com/
or
http://www.oaxacanews.com/amigosdelsol.htm

both in Oaxaca.
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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:

For bang for your buck the best place to go is Guatemala. There are many cheap high quality courses there.


I've looked into this school in Guatemala, which was recommended by a teacher (Jultime, I think) who did their program a couple of years ago. The cost includes either a homestay or accommodation in their guesthouse for a total price that is about the same as the course-only price in most countries. And that is for one-on-one lessons, not group classes. So "bang for your buck" is a good description! For some reason one-on-one lessons are the standard offering for Spanish language schools in Guatemala. Elsewhere small group classes are common, and the student pays extra for one-on-one lessons.

http://www.spanishschoolsollatino.com/en/index.php

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RedLightning



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I greatly appreciate the help. I'll be looking into all of your suggestions.
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in a very small town in central Mexico where pretty much no one speaks English, but where the people are laid back and friendly. You could come here and you would have no choice but to have total immerision. I could set you up with tons of conversation partners and my husband and I could give you one on one classes. Food is delicious, the weather is warm, the air is clean.
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