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gmat
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 274 Location: S Korea
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 2:07 am Post subject: 20% - Estimated Death Rate For SARS |
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Hong Kong's SARS Death Rate Estimated
By EMMA ROSS, AP Medical Writer
LONDON - The first major study of SARS (news - web sites) trends estimates that about 20 percent of the people hospitalized with the disease in Hong Kong are dying from it, and that more than half of those over 60 die.
The findings are similar to earlier, cruder estimates for Hong Kong, one of the areas hardest-hit by SARS. However, experts warn that the figures do not reflect the chances of an average person anywhere dying from a bout of SARS once it is contracted.
The average age of the SARS patients in the study � those hospitalized in Hong Kong � is 50, and disease experts generally agree that the virus is much more deadly in people over 60.
Nearly 200 of the more than 1,600 people believed to have the respiratory disease in Hong Kong have died.
Led by Roy Anderson, regarded as one of the world's leading infectious disease experts, the new research is the latest in a weekslong debate about the true death rate for SARS.
The rate has risen sharply from below 5 percent in the weeks that SARS was first spreading around the globe.
Worldwide, the World Health Organization (news - web sites), which is leading the effort to stop SARS' spread, says the death rate ranges from 6 percent to 10 percent, depending on location. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites) puts the rate at 6.6 percent.
One WHO official noted that the death rate is lower in places where the outbreak has ended or is nearing an end. "We know that in a real situation where the outbreak has completed itself from beginning to end � in Hanoi, Vietnam � they had an 8 percent case fatality rate," said WHO spokesman Dick Thompson.
And in Canada, where patients have been older, the death rate is 15 percent, he said.
"What we do see is that in people under 40 the death rate is generally lower and in people over 60 the numbers are much higher," Thompson said.
The Lancet study, conducted by scientists at Imperial College in London, the University of Hong Kong and the Hong Kong health authorities, estimated that the death rate could be as high as 55 percent in people over the age of 60.
In younger people � those under 60 � the death rate could be as low as 6.8 percent, the study found.
"That's sadly still very high for a respiratory infection," said Anderson, a professor of infectious disease epidemiology at London's Imperial College. "In other common respiratory infections it is much less than 1 percent in the vulnerable elderly."
The former head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said quibbling over the death rate "really doesn't matter one whit."
"It's a serious illness, whether it's 5 percent or 25 percent," said Dr. Jeffrey Koplan, now vice president of academic health affairs at Emory University in Atlanta. "It's much higher than a cold or influenza or most other infectious diseases that we commonly encounter."
Officials with the CDC and WHO would not comment immediately on the new research.
Calculating the death rate has been a sore point for the world's epidemiologists. Two methods dominate among scientists: The method used by the WHO and CDC is to divide the total number of deaths by the total number of SARS cases. The second approach involves dividing the deaths by the total of those recovered plus those who died.
Anderson said both those methods are deeply flawed and underestimate the death rate because they ignore the fate of people who are still ill.
His method involves sophisticated mathematical calculations to estimate how many of those who are ill will eventually die.
He acknowledged his method still has the drawback of not knowing how many people are infected with SARS but do not get sick enough for the infection to be noticed.
"This is the death rate based on those who have been admitted to hospital, and they tend to be the more severe end of the cases," Anderson said.
The Lancet study, based on 1,425 SARS cases in Hong Kong up to April 28, also found that the maximum incubation period � the time it takes between getting infected and becoming ill � may be as long as 14 days.
Quarantine measures have been based on a maximum incubation period of 10 days.
If the incubation period is truly longer than 10 days, people who are being quarantined because they have been in close contact with a SARS patient may not be in isolation long enough.
"The article does raise the caution that maybe we need to move the curve out a little bit by four days and that's well worth further study," Koplan said.
WHO said it is possible that the incubation period could be longer than 10 days because the U.N. agency calculates it starting from the last day a person was exposed to SARS. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, his method over estimates, because with any disease, there are those who have it, but do not get seriously sick, or sick enough to go to the hospital.... Who don't become identified unless they become seriously ill. So they are only basing it (in Hong Kong, for instance) of those who get sick enough to go to the hospital. Big question, are those that relapse relapsing because of "SARS", or the gross over medication that Hong Kong gibes, that other countries are now disputing as being helpful, but that can be quite harmful.
Still haven't heard the final decision, why is Canada saying only 40% or 60% have corona virus new strain? Why is the death rate in some countries so much less? |
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POTUS

Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 22
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it is getting really scary out there on the streets of old Beijing. The restaurants are emplty, Everybody is wearing masks, at least it helps with the dirt and pollution and I also get less stares.
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gmat
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 274 Location: S Korea
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Chris,
The relapses in HK were a false alarm, the patients had non-Sars ailments.
From NY Times article:
Dr. Liu Shao-haei, a senior manager of the authority, said at a news conference today that while some of the patients had developed fevers or other symptoms of illness after their initial discharge from the hospital, not one turned out to be sick again with SARS. In one case, a woman had developed leg swelling from deep-vein thrombosis apparently caused by her prolonged bed rest during her treatment for SARS, Dr. Liu said.
"They are all confirmed as not related to any relapse of SARS conditions," he said, adding that all but four had already been released again from hospitals.
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The stat you posted re Canada is inaccurate. It was one guy in a Winnipeg lab who stated this. There were possible reasons for his findings:
From the National Post
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Dr. Julie Gerberding, head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and a proponent of the coronavirus theory, said there may be good reasons for the discrepancy between the number of cases and the number of patients who test positive for coronavirus.
"First and foremost is probably because [patients] don't have SARS and they don't have coronavirus infection," she told a briefing yesterday. "They have some other respiratory illness that's caused by something else. Another explanation is that although we have tests that can identify it when it's present, we don't know how sensitive they are."
Making things more difficult, said Dr. Gerberding, is that if a specimen is not taken early enough in the disease's progression, the test might not detect the presence of a virus.
"Even with influenza, which is an illness that we have very good tests for, if we don't do certain tests early in the course of influenza, the tests are negative -- they're simply done too late," said Dr. Gerberding. |
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zulu

Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject: re Sars |
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I have been reading up on the 1918 flu epidemic that killed millions world wide and supposedly had a death rate of 1%. Then, there are stories of whole villages being virtually wiped out. Doesn't make any sense to me [mutations?] but it's scary. I was going to return to China this fall to teach but considering I'm nearly 60, forget it.  |
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