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Non Sequitur
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Henan GK the hardest? I didn't know that.
My friend sat GK twice as a better grade made more prestigious universities available to her. She got into a nationally ranked school but not in English which was her preferred major.
At the end of Y1 the uni had a scheme for major changes and as she was 1st or 2nd in her original major she applied.
In the event she changed to English after a big interview process and hasn't looked back. |
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jimpellow
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
Henan GK the hardest? I didn't know that.
My friend sat GK twice as a better grade made more prestigious universities available to her. She got into a nationally ranked school but not in English which was her preferred major.
At the end of Y1 the uni had a scheme for major changes and as she was 1st or 2nd in her original major she applied.
In the event she changed to English after a big interview process and hasn't looked back. |
I think he meant harder in the sense of more competitive due to the number of students who take it.
Sort of funny as it reminds me of my IELTS students who believed that the IELTS exam was easier in certain provinces, which seemed to vary from month to month depending on the latest rumor.
By then I was almost at the half decade mark in China, and realized the futility of trying to reason with them. "Whatever, have a safe trip". |
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Babala
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Public universities (not sure about private) have a quota as to how many students they will take from out of province. Due to the number of students coming from Henan province, it is definitely more difficult for them to get into a good school.
Also I have heard that the GK here is more difficult than other provinces. Apparently Beijing has one of the easiest but that's just what I've heard, no facts/evidence to back that up.
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| Babala wrote: |
Public universities (not sure about private) have a quota as to how many students they will take from out of province. Due to the number of students coming from Henan province, it is definitely more difficult for them to get into a good school.
Also I have heard that the GK here is more difficult than other provinces. Apparently Beijing has one of the easiest but that's just what I've heard, no facts/evidence to back that up.
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Sorry about that.
I also learned something about the Gaokao from this question I didn't know. It seems there are two national versions, each used in certain provinces, and other provinces use their own versions. It also seems the less people in a province, the lower the needed passing score.
I am having a hard time understanding how a standardized test that is used to judge applicants from different provinces, is in fact not standardized. Could somebody please explain this to me? |
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Babala
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Henan has their own version. There are also different versions of the Gaokao depending on what you want to study. Some of my students were complaining that the Gaokao exam for students who want to be PE teachers is so easy. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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I am having a hard time understanding how a standardized test that is used to judge applicants from different provinces, is in fact not standardized. Could somebody please explain this to me?
Schools simply exclude students from certain provinces no matter what the GK score is. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I am having a hard time understanding how a standardized test that is used to judge applicants from different provinces, is in fact not standardized. Could somebody please explain this to me?
Schools simply exclude students from certain provinces no matter what the GK score is. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:37 am Post subject: |
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My former student (Dalian Maritime) who was from Henan says it is more what provinces are included in the catchment rather than excluded. I know it amounts to the same thing.
She took a place in the Public Admin School as she was 'out of zone' for English.
This shows that status of school outweighs the major.
I met a kid on a train from Dalian to Shenyang and he told me he took an offered place at a BJ uni in the School of Russian Language even though he preferred English. His mother was travelling too and she confirmed the status over discipline approach.
The boy was near native proficiency and I expect would have 'aced' the Russian. |
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danshengou
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| Babala wrote: |
| I live in Pingdingshan Henan. My city has 6 active coal mines. The people here are very friendly but I do struggle trying to find teachers who are willing to come to place that is not modern and very few foreigners. |
And the pollution too, eh? What keeps a fella there, let alone wanting to go there. |
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Babala
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A fella? Not sure
My reasons are the following
-my university is good (pays on time, takes my input on classes and materials, supports any extra activities I want to do)
-people here are friendly, students come from working class so no rich entitled brats
-it's cheap here and not much to spend cash on |
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astrotrain
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| Beijing moved a lot of their heavy polluting plants into this region to make the capital more clean which accounts for why the majority of the pics I saw online were perpetually dark and hazy. Who would ever consider living there long term? |
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danshengou
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| I think the OP should be thanking them for letting him dodge a nasty bullet. |
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backtochina2017
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| astrotrain wrote: |
| Beijing moved a lot of their heavy polluting plants into this region to make the capital more clean which accounts for why the majority of the pics I saw online were perpetually dark and hazy. Who would ever consider living there long term? |
So far, a lot of the air pollution readings are based on areas in the center of Zhengzhou. By center, I mean where the subway is at. I am hoping the rural southern parts aren't as bad. |
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