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backtochina2017
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Hainan wasn't bad coming in. I just waited longer. However, if you are leaving China and need a connecting flight for travel or back to your home country that delay might cost you.
I just called Delta who will "operate" the flight for China Southern to LAX, and they told me that the luggage will go to the final destination and that I will not have to present the luggage to customs in Guangzhou.
I then asked again to confirm, "So, customs in Guangzhou do not have to look at my luggage (open bag, ask questions, etc...) and it will be moved to the plane going to Zhengzhou?"
She said yes. |
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hz88
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I think you have been misled.
Just this month I returned from Thailand with China Southern with a transfer in Guangzhou, even though my bag was tagged to its final destination. All passengers still had to collect them from the carousel and take it manually through customs. Once past customs you follow the recheck in procedures then depending where your flight is leaving from, there are small electric cars that will take you to the boarding areas.
http://global.csair.com/US/GB/FLUS/ZZFW/GZZZ/GZFL
This details the procedure.
In all the times I have arrived in China connecting from international to domestic at whichever airport I have always had to recheck my bag. |
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ChrisHenry15
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
OP:
Have you figured out how you'll actually get to China? |
Hah.
Btw, @ OP. On Qunar, flights FROM Detriot to Beijing
range from 4-5k RMB
20 hours or less
March 1st - March 3rd |
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backtochina2017
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| In all the times I have arrived in China connecting from international to domestic at whichever airport I have always had to recheck my bag. |
Ok, but did you switch airline companies for the domestic flight in China to your final destination?
At the China Southern site it states, "After baggage claim you will leave the International Arrival Lobby through Gate A1, where you may meet your family members or friends." http://www.csair.com/au/en/tourguide/airport_service/arrivals_flow/domestic/index.shtml
It also states, "Baggage Service for Connecting Flights
Departure
Passengers who transfer to international flights via Guangzhou can check in baggage to their final destination at the departure airport. You do not need to check your baggage again at Guangzhou airport. (Except for transfer to other airlines via Guangzhou)
Arrival
1. According to regulations set by the Chinese Government, all items brought into the country by passengers need to go through customs inspection.
2. China Southern Airlines has launched a “Through Check-in” service on a trial basis for its 21 in-bound air routes, allowing passengers to enjoy a “one-stop” service of getting boarding passes and checking in their baggage at the departure airport. You will be guided by China Southern Airlines staff to the transit area specified by customs to rest after your arrival at Guangzhou airport. Your baggage will be delivered to the connecting flight after going through customs inspection with the assistance of the airline staff.
The 21 air routes include:" - http://global.csair.com/ES/GB/FLUS/ZZFW/GZZZ/GZSE
You stated, "you follow the recheck in procedures" and they have "checking in their baggage at the departure airport".
But where do you do this? In all the flights I have been on, I have never seen a secondary check in area. If you bring your baggage to airport 1, you and family could be together. But after checking in, you have to go through security. At that point your family cannot be with you. If the baggage claim area is next to the arrival area, then where could you possibly get your luggage before going through customs? I have never had a Chinese person go through my luggage at the airport other than scanning it from the beginning. If they looked at my luggage without me being present that is another story. I don't know about that. However, all I had was a carry on that I carried from the first flight to the last flight.
Nobody opened my suitcases, nobody even asked me questions. They just took the yellow arrival slip and my passport and stamped on the passport. That was the extent of it. I have never seen other passengers' luggage being inspected either. When I went from Korea to Shanghai, same thing. I am neither Korean nor Chinese. I would think that would be the time for someone to inspect the luggage. I was not there if it did happen.
Perhaps you have to get your luggage if the airlines are different and they don't work together. Did this happen in your case or were you on the same airline all the way through? |
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hz88
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:03 am Post subject: |
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My connecting flight was also CS Air.
I sent you a PM about this procedure. The recheck in area is after customs inspection and is still airside before the exit. |
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backtochina2017
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| hz88 wrote: |
My connecting flight was also CS Air.
I sent you a PM about this procedure. The recheck in area is after customs inspection and is still airside before the exit. |
I don't see why you are PMing. If you are stating something valid I would like it confirmed by others and those that also don't know can see either situation.
So, you are stating the following?
1. You arrived in Guangzhou from a China Southern flight.
2. You then went to a baggage claim area.
3. Then, you went to customs.
4. They opened your baggage, asked you questions, and stamped something in your passport.
5. You then took the baggage, rechecked the baggage.
6. You went to the gate for another China Southern flight that was domestic.
Is this correct? Is this what you are stating? I have never experienced this. I have always gotten my bags at the last flight and the baggage claim area was right next to the arrival area for family, friends, employers to meet the passengers arriving.
Anytime I was to show my passport and get it stamped, I only had one carry on with me.
Can anyone else confirm what hz88 seems to be saying? Did you get on the same airline with a baggage claim ticket in hand for the final flight and have to get your luggage midway?
I can understand doing this if you are in "transit" meaning you are going from one airline to another. |
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backtochina2017
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I just called cheapoair where I booked my flight. They asked the baggage area for China Southern and were told the baggage would go to Zhengzhou and that I would not have to get it in Guangzhou.
I think if they have a legitimate concern about your baggage, they won't want you near it and inspect it without you present. He did state if it weren't the same airline then possibly you would have time issues. Also, he mentioned you might have to go to another airport in the same city so people in booking would take into account that when offering up flights. They would not, in this case, offer a flight for only 2 hour layover if baggage had to be claimed. |
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The bear
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:30 am Post subject: |
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To the best of my knowledge...you ALWAYS collect your bags when you first arrive in China. Regardless of your final destination.
I've flown to China numerous times now and have always had to collect my baggage for the onward domestic flight. Regardless of what it says on the luggage label.
Don't rely on customer service to know the procedure. When I first came to China I asked the check in counter staff where I collect my bags, they told me at my final destination, it was wrong. Had I not seen my luggage going around on the carousel it would probably have been left there.
Collect your bags when you first arrive. |
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hz88
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:50 am Post subject: |
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So, you are stating the following?
1. You arrived in Guangzhou from a China Southern flight.
2. You then went to a baggage claim area.
3. Then, you went to customs.
4. They opened your baggage, asked you questions, and stamped something in your passport.
5. You then took the baggage, rechecked the baggage.
6. You went to the gate for another China Southern flight that was domestic. |
No that is not what I said and the reason I didn't put it on here was because people are most likely getting tired reading all of this.
1. You arrive from your international flight.
2. You clear immigration.
3. You go downstairs and arrive in the baggage claim area.
4. Everyone collects their bags. Those whose final destination is Guangzhou proceed through the exit lane, those who are connecting on to other flights follow another lane.
5. Go through Customs as a transit passenger, at the other side there is a recheck in area where you give your luggage, boarding pass which you may or may not have to the check in assistant and they take your bags.
6. Follow the instructions given as to how to get to your gate.
If you are so concerned about this why not pick up the phone and call CS Air yourself.
Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Can anyone else confirm what hz88 seems to be saying? Did you get on the same airline with a baggage claim ticket in hand for the final flight and have to get your luggage midway?
I can understand doing this if you are in "transit" meaning you are going from one airline to another. |
The reason for this is that at your final destination there would be no customs inspection as you would be arriving as a domestic passenger and so everyone is screened at their first point of entry. Not really rocket science to figure out.
Furthermore "transit" means connecting from one flight to another, be it the same airline or another. |
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JamesD
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Location: "As far as I'm concerned bacon comes from a magical happy place."
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Last year I flew LAX to Guangzhou to Beijing to Dalian, all booked through China Southern. Checked luggage in LA and didn't see it until I picked it up in Dalian. No recheck. Just my experience, YMMV.
I've found that the most reliable info comes from the check-in agent at your departure point. Travel agents and helpline operators are often clueless about details like this. |
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rocket man
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I honestly do not get you backtochina, you say you've been here before, traveled to Korea yet you seem utterly incompetent when it comes to this stuff.
No matter which way I've gone (Asia to US or US to Asia) when I've had to connect from an international flight to a domestic flight at my first point of entry I've had to clear immigration and customs then recheck my bags to my final destination.
Now going from a domestic flight to an international flight no matter who is operating this (I've gone from American to Asiana, United to Asiana, etc) I've never had to recheck my bags, bags are automatically forwarded to my connecting flight. Not sure about immigration, as most times I've done this in the US, though in Thailand when I start in Chiang Mai or Samui I would clear immigration there.
I'm beginning to sense you are the t word given your posts.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: backtochina |
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| The guy is a jackass. He got really nasty in a PM when I sent him a polite PM correcting him. Don't waste your time with him. |
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hz88
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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I had an exact similar experience so he won't be getting anymore of my time either. He basically called me an id**t when I offered him some advice on how to get cheap tickets.
What he didn't know was that prior to coming to China I worked in airline ticketing for almost six years.
He gets angry when he doesn't get the answers he wants to hear. |
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