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tyroleanhat
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A simple solution for you is to search taobao for "DIY air purifier". Its basically a cheap fan with an attached hepa filter. (The set costs about 100-150 yuan)
The filtering effect was proven to be almost exactly the same as with an expensive air purifier. If your classroom is big, either get two of those, or just place it near you, so that you get the already cleaned air blown onto you. (Most students won't complain about this, because they don't really understand how those things work anyway) |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China
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If you teach over multiple classrooms there's a portability issue.
Then do you have a safe place to lock it away at night? |
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danshengou
Joined: 17 Feb 2016
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Location: A bizarre overcrowded hole
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| JoThomas wrote: |
| In the classroom I'd suggest duct taping the windows.. seriously. We have air purifiers in the classroom, but air pollution could seep in from the cracks in the windows. Get a portable air purifier for your classroom like BlueAir or Phillips brand. Get a laser egg (http://originstech.com/products/laser-egg/) that takes a daily AQI reading to check how bad the pollution really is inside. With my school central air purifier and windows duct taped shut, the AQI is only about 20 in my classroom and I live in Beijing, where 175 seems like a dream. |
If you feel you need to do all that.......
Seriously just leave at the end of your contract. |
Agreed. As the saying goes, 'If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.'  |
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bagua8
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If you teach with a mask on you will be my hero forever.
Air pollution in China kills an estimated 4600 people a day ... that's around one and a half September 11s ... every ... day ... 😥 |
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HaveAGoodRest
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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I told my boss on Friday that I'd be departing.
Either to another place in China (the ~10% of China that now has decent air) or abroad. Depending on if he's willing to work with me and give me the transfer papers (and I'm willing to work with him and get him another American).
I got the 3M Masks, good Panasonic air purifiers, the Thomas Talhelm 200RMB special fans, and the PM 2.5 egg.
4 AQI in my apartment now with the purifiers blasting, aka normal by global standards.
It's been 190 AQI consistently outside, 205 AQI in the cafeteria, 160 AQI at the gym, 160 AQI in my lecture halls, 180 AQI at the expensive shopping mall.
Anytime I step outside my space station/apartment, and need to take the mask off in the outside world for any reason, I get to have tiny toxic particles lodged deep inside my organs every second I breathe.
No thank you.
No air purifiers anywhere in this city that I've seen. They don't even sell them at the stores.
Good air, they tell me.
Not dangerous.
Just drink some water, I should be alright.
My research says otherwise. |
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creeper1
Joined: 24 Aug 2010
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Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan
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It seems you are hypersensitive to pollution.
Can I ask if it bothers you when people light up on the street and you get to breathe half their cigarette?
There has got to be a big intake of micro particles when you breathe that too.
That is also a big issue in China. The people are absolutely oblivious to anyone finding second hand smoke offensive.
If I was you I would leave not only China but the entire Asian region. I honestly can't think of an Asian country suitable for you.
Please don't waste any future employers time. For you all of Asia is out. |
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astrotrain
Joined: 18 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| HaveAGoodRest wrote: |
I told my boss on Friday that I'd be departing.
Either to another place in China (the ~10% of China that now has decent air) or abroad. Depending on if he's willing to work with me and give me the transfer papers (and I'm willing to work with him and get him another American).
I got the 3M Masks, good Panasonic air purifiers, the Thomas Talhelm 200RMB special fans, and the PM 2.5 egg.
4 AQI in my apartment now with the purifiers blasting, aka normal by global standards.
It's been 190 AQI consistently outside, 205 AQI in the cafeteria, 160 AQI at the gym, 160 AQI in my lecture halls, 180 AQI at the expensive shopping mall.
Anytime I step outside my space station/apartment, and need to take the mask off in the outside world for any reason, I get to have tiny toxic particles lodged deep inside my organs every second I breathe.
No thank you.
No air purifiers anywhere in this city that I've seen. They don't even sell them at the stores.
Good air, they tell me.
Not dangerous.
Just drink some water, I should be alright.
My research says otherwise. |
The problem is you should have done your research before accepting the position and all the expense of getting there then having to break the contract and the expenses of finding some other place.
Shangxi, Henan, Shandong are more the rust belt states, heavy on industrial production, coal, gas, steel etc. A simple google search will disclose the type of industries prevalent in the city and province. Anytime I see "coal or steel" power plant industries I avoid.
Air pollution is all encompassing, every second we need to breath or die, unlike water or food where we can choose alternatives the airborne pollutants have none, who wants to rig all those gear and wear a mask everywhere you go that is like an entire year in a bubble prison.
Guangxi, Guangdong, Yunnan, Hainan are the best choices for green space, sub tropics, blue skies and excessive foliage that provides that fresh air.
Sunny hot days that can hit 40s, I take that over the dark, dreary, polluted North any time.
Good luck. |
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danshengou
Joined: 17 Feb 2016
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Location: A bizarre overcrowded hole
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| creeper1 wrote: |
It seems you are hypersensitive to pollution.
Can I ask if it bothers you when people light up on the street and you get to breathe half their cigarette?
There has got to be a big intake of micro particles when you breathe that too.
That is also a big issue in China. The people are absolutely oblivious to anyone finding second hand smoke offensive.
If I was you I would leave not only China but the entire Asian region. I honestly can't think of an Asian country suitable for you.
Please don't waste any future employers time. For you all of Asia is out. |
Since most of Asia is lousy to live in, I would agree. But BKK has decent air and decent food too (let's not forget that kind of pollution!). Japan and Singapore might work, as well as HK. So not all of Asia is completely out. But generally speaking, better locations require better quals. And barely making ends meet in BKK doesn't sound fun, for example, compared to a quality vacation there.
And regarding the second hand smoke, that shite is nasty and it's all over. Nothing like stepping into an elevator and getting that nice intoxicating aroma all over you. The people just live with it, unfortunately. So it is either clean air or bust time for the OP, and rightfully so! |
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creeper1
Joined: 24 Aug 2010
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Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan
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Guangdong is home to the industrial city of dongguan. Plenty of factories there spewing out pollution.
The aqi in Shenzhen right now is over 100 in places and although that is excellent by Chinese standards, it would be cataclysmic by western standards.
To me, Singapore is a beautiful, clean city and very desirable as a place to live. However even here smog can be an issue on occasions http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/25/haze-news-singapore-air-quality-worsens-overnight-as-indonesia-fire-arrests-jump.html
The op is hypersensitive to pollution. He ought to exit China first and foremost.
And in my opinion he ought to exit the entire region. |
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jimpellow
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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"The problem is you should have done your research before accepting the position and all the expense of getting there then having to break the contract and the expenses of finding some other place. "
-Well said! Then again I have run into Howard Hughes types in some very pristine places who bemoan the contamination.
The only chance the OP has in China to be happy is the far west or maybe Yunnan. |
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bagua8
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| The term "sensitive groups" used on the AQI scale is totally misleading. Anything over AQI 50 is bad for carbon based lifeforms. Statistically speaking, every 24 hours a biological human spends in AQI 150 air reduce life expectancy by 1 hour. At 300 every hour of exposure reduces life expectancy by 20 mins. |
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The bear
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| bagua8 wrote: |
| The term "sensitive groups" used on the AQI scale is totally misleading. Anything over AQI 50 is bad for carbon based lifeforms. Statistically speaking, every 24 hours a biological human spends in AQI 150 air reduce life expectancy by 1 hour. At 300 every hour of exposure reduces life expectancy by 20 mins. |
Any sources for that? |
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bagua8
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