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AV15

Joined: 27 Feb 2017
Posts: 51

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:28 am Post subject:

Non Sequitur wrote:

There is also the point that we enter into a beneficial contract of service.
There is no 'if I feel like it' clause.

And if the teacher is happy doing the minimum, and the employer is happy for the teacher to do the minimum, it's all good.

Non Sequitur

Joined: 23 May 2010
Posts: 4724
Location: China

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 6:09 pm Post subject:

and the 'reputational risk' to other teachers from your country of origin? That doesn't bother you?

The bear

Joined: 16 Aug 2015
Posts: 483

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:10 pm Post subject:

Non Sequitur wrote:

and the 'reputational risk' to other teachers from your country of origin?
That doesn't bother you?

To be honest that doesn't bother me at all. I'm not the person you asked but come on. Would you judge an entire population on the basis of one person?

Non Sequitur

Joined: 23 May 2010
Posts: 4724
Location: China

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 11:43 pm Post subject:

It's an incremental effect, whatever the nationality.

AV15

Joined: 27 Feb 2017
Posts: 51

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 4:36 am Post subject:

Non Sequitur wrote:

and the 'reputational risk' to other teachers from your country of origin?
That doesn't bother you?

I hate my home country and the people in it, so no it wouldn't bother me one bit.

Non Sequitur

Joined: 23 May 2010
Posts: 4724
Location: China

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 4:48 am Post subject:

you're not Colin Kapernick are you?

AV15

Joined: 27 Feb 2017
Posts: 51

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:52 pm Post subject:

Non Sequitur wrote:

you're not Colin Kapernick are you?
Smile

My home country has brought me nothing but pain and misery. I'd be happy to see them suffer in any way possible. It's my hope that one day I'll be able to revoke my citizenship, but to do that I need to gain citizenship in another country first.

max71081

Joined: 05 Aug 2015
Posts: 125

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 4:40 pm Post subject:

AV15 wrote:

Non Sequitur wrote:

you're not Colin Kapernick are you?
Smile

where are you from? (your home country)

AV15

Joined: 27 Feb 2017
Posts: 51

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:07 pm Post subject:

max71081 wrote:

AV15 wrote:

Non Sequitur wrote:

you're not Colin Kapernick are you?
Smile

where are you from? (your home country)

UK.

rogerwilco

Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Posts: 1549

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 5:14 pm Post subject:

The bear wrote:

To be honest that doesn't bother me at all. I'm not the person you asked but come on. Would you judge an entire population on the basis of one person?

The Chinese do seem to generalize a lot. All Beijingers this... all Xinjiangers that....

The bear

Joined: 16 Aug 2015
Posts: 483

Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:56 pm Post subject:

rogerwilco wrote:

The bear wrote:

To be honest that doesn't bother me at all. I'm not the person you asked but come on. Would you judge an entire population on the basis of one person?

The Chinese do seem to generalize a lot. All Beijingers this... all Xinjiangers that....

Yeah, I'm not doubting that. I did consider putting something like that in my first post, arguing that ignorance is their problem and one lonely ESL teacher isn't going to change that.

Relevant

Joined: 16 Apr 2017
Posts: 39
Location: In the wind....

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:18 am Post subject:

http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/no-respect-foreign-teacher.htm Having read this, I wonder for how many TEFL jobs in China it is true. Do you guys feel it reflects the reality of your job/position in China?

nimadecaomei

Joined: 22 Sep 2016
Posts: 605

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:39 am Post subject:

rogerwilco wrote:

The Chinese do seem to generalize a lot. All Beijingers this... all Xinjiangers that....

Yep, those billion and a half people do tend to generalize Very Happy

The bear

Joined: 16 Aug 2015
Posts: 483

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 12:40 pm Post subject:

Relevant wrote:

http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/no-respect-foreign-teacher.htm

Having read this, I wonder for how many TEFL jobs in China it is true. Do you guys feel it reflects the reality of your job/position in China?

I think it hits the nail on the head for a lot of points, especially the foreign English teacher being a token gesture in a lot of places, very little interaction with local teachers, and questionable colleagues.

rogerwilco

Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Posts: 1549

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:00 pm Post subject:

nimadecaomei wrote:

rogerwilco wrote:

The Chinese do seem to generalize a lot. All Beijingers this... all Xinjiangers that....

Yep, those billion and a half people do tend to generalize Very Happy

Touché

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