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indoboy17
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| Funny cos my salary at an intl school is going to be 30k or 25 after tax plus apartment. But when I looked at EFL jobs in china, they all pay from about 8000 for university profs to about 18k for language schools (on the jobs ads on this site for example). Nowhere have I ever seen an ESL job offering 25k (gross?) in china. Perhaps you are in a Tier 1 city (expensive) and live in a tiny room on the outskirts (because most of the jobs I have seen offer 2 or 3k a month for "housing"). Maybe you are lucky and found one job which pays a fair wage then. But I can guarantee most ESL teachers are on less than 20k per month gross. |
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huoguojiggae2017
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I just got off the phone with a courier service in the USA. They said it would cost about $25 per document to authenticate through the consulate, they charge $99 for their service, and it would cost about $75 to send it to China.
Do these figures sound right? About $200 total? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| huoguojiggae2017 wrote: |
I just got off the phone with a courier service in the USA. They said it would cost about $25 per document to authenticate through the consulate, they charge $99 for their service, and it would cost about $75 to send it to China.
Do these figures sound right? About $200 total? |
Don't rely on just one quote. For comparison, contact several other document/visa service agencies in the States to see what they would charge you. |
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Modernist
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Ooh, look. It took so few posts for our 'new' man here, Mr Internationally Properly Qualified Teacher, to brag again about his supposedly incredible salary at his supposedly incredible job. Boy, I'd hate to hear what the women of Cebu have to tell you in order to quiet those little demons of insecurity. Don't worry, though. Visiting Cebu myself at the moment, I'm sure the women here would never ever lie to you about your, hmm, 'qualifications.'
For the actual poster, I would say it's not too off. Just make certain they have actually done the authentication procedure before so they don't claim to know the rules and then end up sending you something not 100% absolutely right, because the Chinese will reject that and you'll be at square 1 again. |
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JoeThePlumber
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| since authetication requires Fed level etc. |
I am curious, is anyone from USA and not working in a big city like Beijing or Shanghai? Did you have to get a Fed level check? Is this nationwide or just in certain cities?
I am being told 2 different things and not sure which to go with. |
Yes, I was required to go through all the hoops that you are experiencing for my new position at a podunk university in Hubei (state level and federal level certification of notarized diploma and criminal records check). I did everything when I was back in the States last spring and the whole process took me about three months. The FAO at my school was basically clueless throughout the whole process and I actually had to complete both of the processes twice (!) before it was deemed satisfactory by the all-powerful Hubei Province Foreign Experts Bureau. I can give you the website info of the service that I used that's in D.C., because they seemed honest and their prices were fair, I thought. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| huoguojiggae2017 wrote: |
I just got off the phone with a courier service in the USA. They said it would cost about $25 per document to authenticate through the consulate, they charge $99 for their service, and it would cost about $75 to send it to China.
Do these figures sound right? About $200 total? |
All that the courier service does is to take your documents to the consulate.
Period.
Find the consulate of your jurisdiction (if you fall into a jurisdiction) and look up the costs for authentication.
If you are an American, these are the consular jurisdictions. Some states don't fall under a consular jurisdiction, but it won't hurt to just submit to the consulate that has jurisdiction in your state).
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/zmzlljs/t84229.htm
According to the Chinese Embassy in the U.S. your visa will cost $140.00 (with required documentation).
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fees/
Authentication processing for CIVIL documents cost $20.00. Express processing may or may not be available depending upon the consulate.
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/t907716.htm
Courier service via Travel Document Services cost $89.00 for 4-5 day service. Rush service (from TDS) costs $199.00. Need it done today? Shell out $349.00 (Prices do not include shipping from U.S. to China).
https://www.traveldocs.com/service-fees
TDS' website gives contact information for all of their offices. I highly recommend that to call them before you send anything off to TDS. Everyone I've dealt with there has been very helpful and knowledgeable and possesses up-to-date info. If the consulate charges fees above and beyond those stated on the websites, TDS will let you know.
Be sure to include money for service from U.S. to China. TDS will give you an exact quote for this.
All monetary values are in USD.
I hope that this helps. |
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indoboy17
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OK here goes
1) notarise your document/degree with a notary public from the country that your document/degree originates in.
2) send it to your country's official department to put an apostille on it. It should be in the country where the document originated.
3) Send these two signatures and seals to the chinese consulate in the country where the document originated from to be legalised. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
| huoguojiggae2017 wrote: |
I just got off the phone with a courier service in the USA. They said it would cost about $25 per document to authenticate through the consulate, they charge $99 for their service, and it would cost about $75 to send it to China.
Do these figures sound right? About $200 total? |
All that the courier service does is to take your documents to the consulate.
Period.
Find the consulate of your jurisdiction (if you fall into a jurisdiction) and look up the costs for authentication.
If you are an American, these are the consular jurisdictions. Some states don't fall under a consular jurisdiction, but it won't hurt to just submit to the consulate that has jurisdiction in your state according to the map).
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/zmzlljs/t84229.htm
According to the Chinese Embassy in the U.S. your visa will cost $140.00 (with required documentation).
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/fees/
Authentication processing for CIVIL documents cost $20.00. Express processing may or may not be available depending upon the consulate.
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/t907716.htm
Courier service via Travel Document Services cost $89.00 for 4-5 day service. Rush service (from TDS) costs $199.00. Need it done today? Shell out $349.00 (Prices do not include shipping from U.S. to China).
https://www.traveldocs.com/service-fees
TDS' website gives contact information for all of their offices. I highly recommend that to call them before you send anything off to TDS. Everyone I've dealt with there has been very helpful and knowledgeable and possesses up-to-date info. If the consulate charges fees above and beyond those stated on the websites, TDS will let you know.
Be sure to include money for service from U.S. to China. TDS will give you an exact quote for this.
All monetary values are in USD.
I hope that this helps. |
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tin man
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I have to say my process was far simpler. Step 1: send scanned degree (and police check) to agent in US. Step 2: done |
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