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Elicit



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult to generalize with only a few recent examples to go on then. Best to break out the actual official guidelines for applicants, if anyone has a copy to hand, and see how many of us interpret them the same way.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalkstein wrote:
It's absolutely a requirement now to have a passport for one of those countries. Our FAO was given the documentation directly from the burea and it dictates we can't hire non-natives to teach English under any circumstances to teach English.

The answer to the original question is difficult to answer because the fact remains he could have procured the visas illegally or he might be lying. The only way to know is to talk to the African people who attained visas for. It's also impossible to know when he got those visas and the rules change every year. This was easy years ago, now it's nearly impossible (at least in my province).

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Of course, the more non-native speaking teachers which are brought in through this loophole, the more it will have a depressing effect on overall wages. This in turn will make more native-speaking teachers wonder if the onerous process is worth it.


Yeah my feeling is that it's getting more rigid though, not less. I know about 10 schools in my city alone, not one of them hires non-natives anymore and some of them have been without teachers for over a year due to this rule. Surely they would have hired if this loophole was available to them?


I think the key here is that what the school knows is always behind what that the provence knows. Further, what the provence knows is always behind what Beijing has set. Even what Beijing dictates is unknown as a fair amount is not shared publicly, and various agencies compete and pursue differing agendas.

I can only laugh that they started to roll out these changes four years ago, and they are still occurring with increasing regularity with each resulting in more contradictions and confusion.
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dakelei



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely. No one, it seems, is up on the latest changes, which occur on an almost daily basis and are different from one province to another. I've attempted to contact the nearest Chinese consulate to me, the one in New York, and they're worse than useless. They never know what's going on either. They never answer the phone and respond to emails by cutting and pasting from their own website. What they're doing is indeed commendable: keeping out the unqualified and criminal. There just HAS to be a better, and less time consuming way to do it.
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