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Is it true that a public school can be late with salaries?
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Blistering Zanazilz

Joined: 06 Jan 2018
Posts: 180

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:32 am Post subject:

alonzo9772 wrote:

Blistering Zanazilz wrote:

Obviously you missed the part where he wrote "my salary has never been late in over 4 years." Apparently he's working for a decent employer, and if not having specified dates in his contract works for him then great.

I would call that a 4-year good luck streak.

"Luck" doesn't exist. There's a real world explanation for everything, and in the case of being paid on time every month for four years that reason is a conscientious employer.

getbehindthemule

Joined: 15 Oct 2015
Posts: 712
Location: Shanghai

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:51 am Post subject:

Blistering Zanazilz wrote:

alonzo9772 wrote:

Blistering Zanazilz wrote:

I would call that a 4-year good luck streak.

"Luck" doesn't exist. There's a real world explanation for everything, and in the case of being paid on time every month for four years that reason is a conscientious employer.

'Hold on, you don't specify salary dates in your contracts? Of course the school would be late then. Why should they not exploit that? I always amend a really fancy looking table of salary pay dates with my contracts. There is no ambiguity or things left up to interpretation.'
@alonzo9772

In the past, I have worked in middle and senior management positions in industry with tiny family owned businesses to large multi-nationals where my exact monthly date of pay wasnt specified on my contract!
I do my research before jumping into a position where my pay would be in question on a monthly basis or as you put it be exploited! ;）

nimadecaomei

Joined: 22 Sep 2016
Posts: 605

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:10 am Post subject:

alonzo9772 wrote:

I would call that a 4-year good luck streak.

I have 10 years with two employers and have the same experience. Never late. The first one had something like withing the first 10 working days of the month. My current contract states, to be agreed with the host school. It was agreed verbally and no issues.

The first one was annoying at times, as holidays are obviously not working days, so pay could come quite late. However, it was the contract and they followed it. Pay when holidays were around tended to be paid early.

kev20

Joined: 31 Jul 2013
Posts: 114

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:56 am Post subject:

Elicit wrote:

“lose the respect of the school”

If the school has not paid as stated then the school should have lost the respect of the employee.

All of my contracts and/or terms and conditions documents have stated salary pay dates. If a teacher is willing to sign a work contract not knowing when they will be paid, it’s fair game for the employer.

Luckily, like the poster before (nima) I get paid in full and on time and that is thanks to being with a decent employer and perhaps even partly due to previous teachers having been unwilling to be treated like fools.

I'm guessing the discussion has moved away from public schools. But anyway it seems to me that the majority of public schools employ foreign teachers through agencies and often the agancy will pay their salary directly rather than the school. It won't be the fault of the public school.

Even if you are paid directly by a public school, if salaries are late and you strike you will still lose the respect of your colleagues who will turn up and will cover your classes if they haven't received their salary.

getbehindthemule

Joined: 15 Oct 2015
Posts: 712
Location: Shanghai

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:33 am Post subject:

kev20 wrote:

Elicit wrote:

Yep, just feel like weighing in on kev20's comment, I guess every FT is different and many don't give two hoots about their Chinese work colleagues for whatever reason! This is a terrible mistake imo and takes away from having a positive experience working here! You reap what you sow!!

Silent Shadow

Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 380
Location: A stones throw past the back of beyond

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:55 am Post subject:

I wouldn't refuse to work if my salary was two or three days late a couple of times. However if the school was very late with salary, For instance, two or three weeks, or a month late for a couple of months running, I would definitely not turn up for class. If the situation did not improve, I would seek employment elsewhere.

alonzo9772

Joined: 23 Sep 2016
Posts: 55

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:09 am Post subject:

Silent Shadow wrote:

I wouldn't refuse to work if my salary was two or three days late a couple of times. However if the school was very late with salary, For instance, two or three weeks, or a month late for a couple of months running, I would definitely not turn up for class. If the situation did not improve, I would seek employment elsewhere.

Of course, once it's a month late, that's a sign that either the school personally doesn't like you, or the boss is extremely disorganized. With either one of those cases, I would high tail it out of there.

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