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sicklyman
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:37 am Post subject: |
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I do... it’s just in the driveway of the house we’ll be retiring to by the sea
On topic though, it was great to share the joy of the woman in the next cubicle to me who passed her test last week and got her driving license yesterday. |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Liberation is surely not about giving everyone a driving licence and an automobile. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well Scot... I suspect that there are significant number of women in KSA that totally disagree with you. I certainly do. When one has spent one's life in parts of the world - and especially my own country - where there is either very limited, too expensive, or non-existent mass transit - being able to drive a car of one's own IS all about liberation and freedom... not to mention the ability to get to school or work.
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In the heat of the moment
Joined: 22 May 2015 Posts: 393 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I prefer using Uber to driving, the roads are terrible for the nerves and I don't want to use what limited grey matter I have getting to places in one piece. I'll leave that to those who don't care about having very little mental capacity when outside of a car. |
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scot47
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Let me see. What is wrong with this idea ?
"Freedom is when everyone has an automobile." |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Let me see. What is wrong with this idea ?
"Freedom is when everyone has an automobile." |
Car dealers would say so. However, car ownership is one thing; being allowed to personally drive that vehicle is another.
This is about having equal rights and personal choice/free will. In this case, females (Saudi and expat) now have the right to drive in KSA, which puts them on equal footing with males. Obviously, there are limitations given the country's patriarchal culture as well as the dynamics in some expat families. |
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1st Sgt Welsh
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 946 Location: Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Freedom means that individuals are not being restricted in the things that they want to do. While 'total freedom' in a society may not be possible, or even desirable, certainly some places are freer than others and Saudi remains very much at the lower end of that spectrum.
Nonetheless, if a woman wants to drive and, they're not allowed to based on their gender, then, in this regard, they're obviously less free than males who do have that choice. Nobody is saying that the lifting of this ban is everything, but it is something. Also, let's not forget, greater mobility means greater independence and, personally, I see this as pretty significant and a long-overdue step in the right direction. |
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sheikhitnow
Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Well the next step in liberation should be that any Saudi woman should damn well be able to drive down to Dubai without anyone's permission. And then have the same freedoms as any Jumeirah Jane. |
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baa_baa
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 265
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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So are women really driving???? You know I never believed it but I am curious.. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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yep... even commuting via the Causeway |
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baa_baa
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 265
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Omg complete chaos. Of course women should have complete rights ... |
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baa_baa
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 265
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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hi since my last post its been almost a year. Ar women still allowed to drive? |
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voyagerksa
Joined: 29 Apr 2015 Posts: 140
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Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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baa_baa wrote: |
hi since my last post its been almost a year. Ar women still allowed to drive? |
actually half a year. |
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