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Bush and his National Guard Service
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Seth



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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Location: in exile

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:59 pm    Post subject: damned if i do, damned if i don't Reply with quote

i vote, that's my responsibility. if you want to be an activist, be my guest, but don't try to 'enlighten' me, i don't need it. and don't presume i'm lazy, i'm a social worker here in the US, not a job for the apathetic or lazy.

the activists (ie hippies and weirdos) protesting in NYC right now are probably hurting kerry more than helping, unfortunately.

i mostly got burnt out from the activists themselves. pot smoking losers wearing che guevara shirts, militant vegans, and people who hate bush but love castro. socialism is a bad thing. so is patchouli oil. i got tired of all the loonies and pet causes.

why don't you protest against north korea or cuba or china? their governments are the dictatorships, not the US, despite of what you might say.
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moonraven



Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not a citizen of the countries you mentioned. What style of government they have is not my business. I AM a US citizen, and the fact that it has become a totalitarian state IS my business.

Your intolerance makes me believe that you are lying about being a social worker. What are you doing shooting your mouth off on an ESL site--don't they have any sites for what you REALLY do?
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Seth



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're the one who hates gringos, lady. i'll take being called intolerant by you as a compliment.

anyway, i have a degree in psychology (minor in linguistics and history, my true passions despite my major) and while i'm on haitus here i'm doing social work for a hospital (where i do work with a lot of latinos, porque ellos no tienen seguridad de salud). there are no esl jobs around here, of which i've done in haiti (on a humanitarian mission at my own expense) and china. plus i studied chinese (ni shi shagua) in college so i like teaching in china. i'll return there eventually, hopefully.

so now you know.

anyway, before you sidetrack me any more:

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skeptic



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seth,

Don't let yourself be drawn in by her baiting. She's like a bad rash: the more you scratch her the worse she'll get. Just ignore her.
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kimo



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To counter charges that President George W. Bush was absent from duty after he was transferred to the Alabama National Guard in 1972, the "Veterans Who Nearly Remember Bush" held their first press conference at the Motel 6 in Gadsden, Alabama.

Speaking before a gathering of supporters and curious hotel guests who came downstairs for the free coffee and muffins, VWNRB President Vern McWhorter stated emphatically that he "personally almost remembers a guy named George Bush" in his Reservist unit.

"I know it�s been well over thirty years, but my memory is quite clear that I practically met him."

Echoing that sentiment was former Reservist Ned Copperwell.

"People can denigrate the Guard and its role in Vietnam, but let me tell you something - if we'd been asked to serve in Danang or Hue, we'd have proudly answered the call. And I bet my bottom dollar that George Bush would've suited up as well... as soon as we found him."

The VWNRG was put together several weeks ago to counter the "swiftboat" veterans who appeared alongside John Kerry at the Democratic Convention and attested to his courage under fire. McWhorter says his group would like to do the same for Bush, but has yet to receive an invitation.

"I spoke with (RNC Chairman) Ed Gillespie's secretary yesterday," said McWhorter, "and she assured me that they would consider a joint appearance with the President as soon as they get a response from the 'National Guardsmen Who Saw Someone Who Looked a Lot Like George Bush,' so I guess we�ll have to wait our turn."

In Huntsville, Alabama, NGWSSWLLLGB spokesperson Chuck Lambert dismissed McWhorter�s group as "a copycat organization" that seeks nothing but publicity and a chance to capitalize on its tenuous connection to the President.

"Let there be no mistake," Lambert stated. "We're the only legitimate group out there that's certain George W. Bush almost showed up for active duty."

Meanwhile, in Decatur, Georgia, an injunction against the NGWSSWLLLGB was being filed by an outfit calling themselves "Reservists Who Saw George Bush Somewhere in Alabama, Maybe at a Denny's or a Kentucky Fried Chicken, We're Not Quite Sure."

RWSGBSAMDKFCWNQS media liaison Emily Butler said legal action was necessary "because the NGWSSWLLLGB has no verifiable documentation that shows they practically saw the President way back then."
When asked if her group had any corroborating evidence, Butler tersely replied, "Just about."

McWhorter, who served three years in the Alabama National Guard and once came under attack by a runaway dachshund while on patrol, shared his recollections with the rapt audience.


Found at:

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138469
&tid=apkerryvietcongriver&sid=37138469&mid=1991
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seth,

So take it as a compliment then. Sit on your haunches and do nothing. That passive stance does not entitle you to complain, but to get what you deserve.
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Seth



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

video of former Texas lieutenant governor Barnes saying he feels ashamed for getting rich boys like Bush into the national guard:

http://69.59.167.160/

In depth comparison of Kerry and Bush military records:

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

Just for fun: photos of Bush's drunk driving records

http://www.georgewbush.org/images/bios/dwi2.gif
http://www.georgewbush.org/images/bios/dwi1.gif
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