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Alex42
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 77 Location: Salta, Argentina
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: First teaching job: Chile or Argentina? |
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I've decided to begin my TEFL career in either Chile or Argentina, but I need some more information before I can make my decision...
I have a degree, a 20-hour weekend TEFL cert and a little experience of teaching, although I have worked with foreign kids before.
Argentina sounds good because I've heard the cost of living is low and it's supposedly easy to find TEFL jobs. On the other hand, Chile has a stronger economy so I'd get paid more. I don't know how easy it is to find work there though.
I'm hoping to work in a smallish town rather than a big city, preferably in the mountains so I can go climbing and snowboarding in my spare time:-)
I'd also like to know the term dates for both countries and the best time to start looking for work.
I'd really appreciate any information at all about either of these countries to help me make my decision!
Cheers,
Alex |
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matttheboy

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Posts: 854 Location: Valparaiso, Chile
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Mendoza in Argentina and on the Chilean border would suit you perfectly. There are posts about it on the argentinian forum and job info journal. I can tell you that it's a really pretty, very relaxed small city in the foothills of the Andes with very good links to pretty much any outdoor activity you could wish for. The food is amazing, as is the wine (and the ladies are worth mentioning as well). Cost of living is nothing (if you have any savings you could, for example, live very, very happily without work for us$5000 a year). In my opinion and from quite long experience in both countries, Argentinians are a million times friendlier and more open than Chileans who remind me of my generation of Thatcher's children-arrogant, insular and obsessed with money and are often referred to as the English of South America, and not in a positive way....it seems to me that from friends who have visited me out here and from backpackers travelling through that the English tend to get on much better in Argentina than in Chile...hope this helps. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Argentina, better Spanish than Chile. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Not better Spanish: DIFFERENT Spanish. |
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Alex42
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 77 Location: Salta, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Cheers guys - Argentina it is.. |
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Weona

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Chile
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Wow - I hope you don't make your decision based on a few brief comments (and stereotypical judgements I might add) from this discussion board.
First off, let me tell you that Chileans are extremely warm and friendly people. In fact, I have traveled to many other countries in South America and Chile has always been the place where I have felt the most welcomed. Many do not like my country/government, but they do not treat me as if I am somehow responsable or apart of it.
If you stay away from Santiago, I think you would enjoy any part of Chile. Santiago is too big, too chaotic, and too smoggy for me. Many people love it, but I find the smaller towns to be more enjoyable and interesting (and less Westerized). That is why I came to a town on the coast of Chile. Very beautiful here. matttheboy is right in that money and social status is very important to Chileans but I dont think that makes them any less friendly. Besides, you tend to see that more in Santiago.
In general, Chileans are always so interested as to why I came here, what I like about their country, what I think about it, and what others think about Chile in the U.S. (where I am originally from). It is really humbling. I have yet to receive one negative comment.
Apart from that, the Spanish in Chile is what tends to draw people away. Chilean Spanish is very difficult and frustrating for many foreigners. It is especially more difficult for people who are just beginning to learn the language. I personally love their accent but that is only because I am now able to understand it.
I would love to talk more about Chile but perhaps you've already made up your mind about Argentina. Argentina is a wonderful country as well so I really think you'll be happy choosing either one. I just wanted to give you a different perspective on Chile than what you've previously been told! |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Alex: Why not throw darts at a board.
I can't believe you live your life so unconsciously.... |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:57 am Post subject: |
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moonraven wrote: |
Alex: Why not throw darts at a board.
I can't believe you live your life so unconsciously.... |
So, Moonraven, how should Alex live his life?
Considering how life tends to mess up the best laid plans, throwing darts at a board actually doesn't sound like such a bad idea... I wouldn't do it, but then I'm far too cautious for my own good. |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:15 am Post subject: |
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First of all, he should claim his life. Making a decision to go to Argentina based on some comments he received from a virtual site in Internet indicates that he has not done that. To live a life you must first have one! |
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Weona

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Chile
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I'm in agreement with moonraven. I think seeking advice from an international message board is a good idea, but using only those comments for the basis of ones decision is kind of well, not the smartest thing to do. Research is key. Also, visiting both countries in question would also help. I suggest spending a few weeks in each and then see which one draws his fancy.
Chile for life. |
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Alex42
Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Posts: 77 Location: Salta, Argentina
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Surely living my life unconsciously would be to remain in my boring office job for the next 40 years?! Fortunately I haven't made any decisions based solely on this message board!
I've decided to choose Argentina over Chile because:
(a) my Spanish isn't great. I'm very much a beginner so I don't want to start off in a country where it's unnecessarily difficult.
(b) I've only got a weekend TEFL qualification and very little experience, so I doubt I'll find work immediately upon arrival. Therefore I'd prefer to go somewhere where my English money will go a long long way while I look for work.
They both seem like pretty good reasons to me.
Only problem now is that I've heard January/February is the best time to look for work, as term starts in March. But I don't want to wait that long, dammit! Does anybody know what my chances of finding private work would be?
PS: I certainly hope to go to Chile at some point, once I've improved my Spanish and I'm a bit more employable! |
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Weona

Joined: 11 Apr 2004 Posts: 166 Location: Chile
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well I wish you the best of luck, Alex. Let us know how everything goes! |
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Marcethebest
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 60 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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WELCOME TO ARGENTINA, ALEX!!!!
I hope you enjoy your stay here...
Good luck and let us know how you are doing here ! |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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True enough, Argentina is suuuu-weet. Enjoy. |
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Justin Trullinger

Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3110 Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I LOVE Chilean Spanish. So fast, so many dropped consonants, and so much fun! Also, the people are wonderfully profane, if you enjoy the creative use of idiomatic expressions... |
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