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two year degree (associate's degree) + TESOL
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nenemosha



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: Taipei

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: two year degree (associate's degree) + TESOL Reply with quote

Is there anyone in Taiwan right now who falls under this category? I've read that you can get a legal work permit with an associate's degree if you have TESOL certification. I know Hess will accept applicant's with these qualifications.

For anyone who is in this boat do you have schools you would recommend applying at? Does it seem to be a *lot* more difficult? I've been checking ads all over (like tealit.com and others) and most "require" a bachelor's degree. I'm not sure if this is actually an absolute requirement or a preference or if most institutes aren't aware that visas can be obtained for people with an associate's.

That said, would I have an easier time finding legal work with an agent or should I still do my own footwork?

As much advice as possible would be greatly appreciated. I'll be arriving at the first of June next year.

Thanks!
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TaoyuanSteve



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Posts: 1028
Location: Taoyuan

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, you can work with that combination of qualifications. Unfortunately, I do not know anyone who currently works with an AA and tesl. I think there is a definite preference for BAs. Perhaps they are easier to certify. Or perhaps there are other reasons. If Hess will take you, I'd say do it. If you are seriously contemplating a recruiter, I'm sure dealing with a large orginization like Hess directly will be better than dealing with a recruiter from overseas. Hess also tends to acquire work permits for teachers ahead of their arrival in Taiwan, the only company I've heard of that wil do this. But, whatever you do, try to avoid recruiters while you are still out of the country.
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nenemosha



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I don't intend on having a job ready by the time I get over. I'm actually really doing everything tight together. I'll be leaving for Taiwan 6 days after I finish the TESOL course I'm going to take.

Hopefully it won't be a huge deal to find legal work. I really if at all possible don't want to work illegally but may if needed or go the student visa route.

Does anyone else have any advice or first hand experience with job hunting with the 2 year/associate's degree + TESOL combo? Keep it coming!

Smile

Thanks!
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canadiangirlsrock



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there! I actually came to Taiwan about 2 months ago with a 2 year College Diploma and the Tesol course. I came without a job and had no problems finding work. I went to several different interviews and got several offers and so I picked from those...so don't feel like you have to settle for the first offer that comes your way because of your qualifications. Yes, I am working legally and I love my school and the children. I hope this helps you, if you have any more questions PM me.
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zealflyer



Joined: 22 Sep 2004
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Location: Winnipeg, MB

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi canadiangirlsrock,

Can I be a little nosy and ask what kind of diploma you hold and what kind of TESOL training you took (course hours, etc.)? I'll be leaving for Taiwan in a couple of months and have very similar credentials - 2 year Creative Communications diploma and 60 hr. TESOL course. I am a little apprehensive about finding legal work and am thus heartened to hear of your success.
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markholmes



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Location: Wengehua

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got this off a post on the Tealit forum. Don't know where it comes from mind. Hope it helps.

Quote:
Article 40
Foreigners to be employed as foreign language teachers as specified in Article 46.1.4 in the Act should meet with following requirements. The weekly working hours in the teaching-related work should be no less than 14 ( fourteen) hours.

1. Age: 20 or above.

2. Graduation certificate from colleges or above.

3. The language to be taught by the foreign employees should be the national language used in the country specified on the passport of the employees.

The foreign employees specified in the previous Article need to obtain qualification certificate for language teaching if the employees did not graduate from ( 4-year-term) *universities or colleges overseas.
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steeevieboy



Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I both have ARCs:
3 yrs College (aka Associates Degree?) + TEFL
My friend who just arrived was told by Gloria Schools that his 2 year College + TEFL would be enough to get an ARC.
It all depends on the school's connections!
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nenemosha



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: Taipei

PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Article 40
Foreigners to be employed as foreign language teachers as specified in Article 46.1.4 in the Act should meet with following requirements. The weekly working hours in the teaching-related work should be no less than 14 ( fourteen) hours.

1. Age: 20 or above.

2. Graduation certificate from colleges or above.

3. The language to be taught by the foreign employees should be the national language used in the country specified on the passport of the employees.

The foreign employees specified in the previous Article need to obtain qualification certificate for language teaching if the employees did not graduate from ( 4-year-term) *universities or colleges overseas.
[/quote]

Hi Mark,

May I ask where you got this from? I've been inquiring about some job postings and have unfortunately been running into people who do not know about this rule. I'd like to be able to push back a little (hopefully that won't be taboo) and educate them that I can actually get a legal work permit with my current qualifications.

Thanks!
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markholmes



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 661
Location: Wengehua

PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it off a post on the www.tealit.com forum that was posted within a few days of me posting it here. If you cut the quote from here and search for it on the Tealit forum (teaching section) you'll probably find it.

I am 99% sure it came from Tealit. If you can't find it try searching the forums at www.forumosa.com

Better still copy and paste the quote and start a fresh post asking where it comes from. Start one on Forumosa too.

I still think its a bit ambiguous, as I think what they mean by people with less than four year degrees is people with three year university degrees (mostly Europeans and maybe Canadians I think). I don't think they mean diplomas. but this is just my interpretation and I guess it could be argued either way.

Cheers

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