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[moonraven]

I am not looking for work, thanks. If posting CVs is requested of one person, it should be then requested of all folks who participate in this forum.

The problem with this was discussed on another recent thread--that of people creating fictional CVs.

I suggest that folks work on achieving their own life goals, instead of tearing down the achievements of others--a practice which reflects immaturity and lack of self-esteem. There's nothing inherently wrong with being immature, nor having low self-esteem--but their expressions are frequently very mean-spirited, and simply unworthy of folks who are teachers--or striving to become teachers.

[Stephen Jones]

It's not your acheivements dear Moonraven that others object to. It is your bullet-proof pomposity, and readiness to slur anyone who has different pedagogical or political views to yours.

[moonraven]

I have not yet even begun to slur anyone. I have every right to express my opinions--pedagogical or political or in regard to other subjects--and I will continue to exercise that right.

If my opinions are the voice of a minority, their expression is even more necessary--one way to fight against the once-again fashionable fascism.

I am not bullet-proof, but packs of barking dogs do not intimidate me. And especially not in cyberspace. Here in Mexico we have a dicho: "Perro que ladra no muerde" (A barking dog doesn't bite.)

[Stephen Jones]

[moonraven]

Question: And without your viscous, vicious, vociferous villifying?

Answer: The faint possibility of meaningful dialog.

[Seth]

moonraven, i'm seriously starting to question your sanity. first you want us to believe you're some supergenius with perfect SAT scores. then you spent 11 days of active duty and were offered the position of major, yet declined because you were only in the military to study women in combat...in 1976. you work with scientists who are unraveling the secrets of the universe. now you tell us you speak 8 languages. it's really getting difficult to take anything you say seriously as such claims are a bit far fetched.

if your views are so wacky that nobody else has them ('minority view'), it's not because everyone else is a fascist or a racist or a misogynist or any other inflamitory buzz words. you're becoming delusional, and a constant victim mentality is a symptom. i think you need to take a vacation from all this, get yourself together. sit on the beach, have a few beers, and relax for a while. seriously, i'm not joking around.

[Roger]

[OzBurn]

MR wrote:

>I am a Native American, promote no US educational theories or practices,

MR, neither I nor anyone else could care less about your ethnicity. Your frequent references to it are offensive.

>You have never seen a SINGLE ONE of my students, so don't come with your silly stories about MY kind of pedagogy.

My "stories" are based on years of work with the abject failures produced by constructivist pedagogues whose pseudo-scientific chatter and pet hatreds greatly resemble yours.

The evidence about what works is easily available. Read Shaywitz and her colleagues on phonemic awareness. Read Paul Nation's book on acquiring vocabulary in a second language. The literature on the failure of whole language and constructivist approaches to literacy in English is large and quite familiar to people who keep up on educational research. There is also a large body of research called "effective schools" research, which (again) people who are familiar with educational research know about. Barak Rosenshine is a leader in this area.

Now, MR wrote that the answer to all my questions was YES. I'm so glad! That means that she answered "yes" to the following:

>>Is she aware that the only large-scale educational experiment to comprehensively examine how to raise students' IQ, skills, and self-esteem showed that a skills-based curriculum using (among other things) drills was the most effective, by far?

So the debate is over.

O

P.S. By the way, MR, was it as a student in philosophy class that you learned to characterize the views of people who disagree with you as "fascism"? Or was that something you perfected in your work as a professor of learning strategies?

Never mind, I don't want to know the answer. I'm done with this debate and with MR.

[moonraven]

Maybe instead of saying the debate was over you should have asked Moonraven if she had any faith whatsoever in the reliability of IQ scores--which she doesn't.

A debate includes two people, therefore you are in no positition to decide anything.

Keep on drilling--maybe someone will hire you as a dental assistant.

Seth: Just because I told you--ANOTHER non-teacher who flaps off on this forum--to put your money where your mouth was and DO something about the political situation in the US is no reason for you to assassinate my character.

Someone who has spent 60 years educating herself is considerably different from someone who spends his/her time on beaches drinking beer. I have never aspired to mediocrity--it has never advanced anything--and if you expect me to respect your life choice of doing nothing, I expect you to respect mine--which is doing everthing.

[Aramas]

MR seems to be one of those people that grow a beard at thirty and never have another original thought - which is rather impressive considering it's a girl!

I had an uncle like that. He would spend weeks writing tedious philosophical treatise and then bore everyone senseless with his monologues. He mostly got away with it in his somewhat less than erudite social circle, but when I hear "Every man is an island" (the anti-JD!) I just can't help but laugh. He was also an apologist for MR's 'School of Life' educational system. On the bright side, they do tend to die out quickly. There's not much future in geriatrics unless you happen to be a geriatrician.

In my experience, anyone that endlessly prattles on about how scathingly brilliant they are, invariably isn't. Except me of course. I know everything. I'm so extraordinarily clever that I scare myself sometimes. Genius doesn't even begin to describe my evolutionarily transcendent intellect. I'm a God! Or was that a teapot? My memory isn't what it was. Now where did I put my medication?

[Stephen Jones]

[basiltherat]

thanks for all comments related to original posting. we have decided to remain with headway for the time being and using business objectives and opportunities for business courses. while quite old, they seem suitable and adequate for the job at hand; at least temporarily.
thnx again for comments and advice
basil

[moonraven]

Considering that you follow my posts all around this board in order to make silly responses to them, I guess they are exactly what are keeping YOU awake, at any rate. I am not sure that that could be considered a public service, however.

I couldn't care less what you think of my posts, you know. I think it's funny that you get all hot and bothered and adolescent in your responses to them.

[basiltherat]

come on guys, quit the mud slinging. It gets us nowhere.
basil

[dmb]