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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject: They said 'YES' !! |
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But will Turkey keep to the conditions? Maybe I've been here too long but a small part of me feels that Turkey is going to screw up somewhere along the lines. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject: ?? |
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They won't get in - I am sure of it. |
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Faustino

Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 601
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Can you imagine how many holidays well have if they have to start observing christian religious celebrations too? Heres to having two full weeks off at Christmas or a month whent he lunar calendar lands Bayram at the right time.  |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 7:03 pm Post subject: Turkey in Europe |
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They will get in - almost certain - because the powers that be cannot refuse to let Turkey in, after fulfilling the conditions. However it will take time to reach full membership, and most of us will be in our rocking chairs when that happens.
We are now in the preliminary stages, with the powers deciding if Turkey is ready for accession talks - that will be a "yes." From then on, more conditions will apply, and it will take years, but Turkey will get in. |
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calsimsek

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Ist Turkey
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: |
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They have only said yes to haveing talks about when they will say Yes.
Friends in the right places in Ankara tell me that two options are open to the Turks.
1. Follow all the E.U rules and demands and get a date around 2015-2020
2. Agree to a two stage enterance where goods will flow and some select individuals swill be given free travel rights around 2008-2010 and the rest of the poulation will have to wait until perhapes as much as 2025-2030, otion two is futher sweeten by largh transfers of cash.
Either way I have to say I never thought I would see this day. I came to this country over 12 years ago and alot has changed. Most for better, but I miss the old city a little. If the E.U means more of the old lossing out, then I want to wait for a few more years.
Can any of you recall those small moterboats that use to run from one side to the other. They could only carry about 10 or 12. On winter night you'd stand at the back and have long smoke as snow fell around you. Thats now gone as has so much more.
Perhpes why I live here is that its not as worked out, orderd or plannned as the west. Turkey and I need time to get use to the idea |
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dmb

Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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calsimsek, I'm with you on this one. I, too, came here about 12 years ago. It is amazing how much change there has been. I don't know how but everyone seemed to have money and go out every night without having to worry about budgeting. How many EFL teachers can do that now? |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 1693 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:00 pm Post subject: Turkey to join in 10 years |
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The executive body of the 25 country Euro. Union ruled that Turkey had made enough progress in reforming the economy, and improved the human rights record to deserve negotiations toward membership.
Nothing is certain however, because all 25 heads of member states will have to agree to the decision when they meet in December.
Negotiations will take more than 10 years, and can be stopped at any time if Turkey does not continue to make strides forward in Democratic reform. Even then, Turkey might never become a full member.
Yesterday's ruling said strict, permanent limits would be imposed on Turkish migration.
Bulgaria (a home away from home for Scott47) and Romania are right on track to join in 2007. Ghost visited Romania in 2003 and saw more abject poverty and depression there in comparison with Turkey, but the religious issue (or lack thereof) plays a part here. |
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dmb

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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:34 am Post subject: |
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On the news last night there was a guy being interviewed in alibeykoy about the floods. He said 'Why is everyone talking about getting into Europe. I can't even get into Merter' |
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calsimsek

Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Ist Turkey
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks alot dmb, showed your post to friends at work we all had a good laugh. It took my wife over three hours to get from home on the asian side (near the s/b) to levent. So the guy on the T.V was right. |
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dmb

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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:57 am Post subject: |
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I quite liked the rain- my 3 company classes all cancelled so I had a home day and never left the house.  |
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