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[Antaraaaa]

Hi To the Mexico Forum!

I have been reading the posts here faithfully for some time. I thank you all for the experience I have been made privy to, and I hope I can do the same for others in the future. I plan to be in Mexico myself soon enough.
However, I am still in China, lol, so it will be a while....

Point of post: I have a good friend who has been a missionary trainee for the last few months. He is a great guy, a totally outgoing and hilarious man (age 28 ) and I have been at him for months to try teaching . I know the younger kids especially will just adore him. He always resisted it (like me, it never occured to him he would be GREAT at it!) but the missionary training has had him doing some esl classes recently and he is HOOKED! (I knew he would be ) He has his heart set on Chihuahua and asked me for some help , as his online time is very limited and he is now off to the Bahamas doing relief work (post-hurricane) for the next 6 weeks.

Facts: he has a lot of varied life experience (award winning business owner among them) but is (obviously) very new to teaching. No degree, no TEFL, but he is willing to do whatever he needs to to get work and start a career. He is a naturalbornkiller...er, teacher,

Thanks in advance to all who reply.

Cheers,

Ant

[MixtecaMike]

With no degree he would possibly run into legal problems, i.e. not be able to get an FM3. Maybe he could consider going to Guatemala, there many teachers work without visas, it's really not a big deal at all. Schools there would be all over him, even without a degree. Just be aware that the pay is terrible, even worse than Mexico (or even China), but for the experience it might be a good option.

[Ben Round de Bloc]

[Antaraaaa]

Thanks so much for your time Ben and Mike.

I appreciate the advice, and although I am surprised at a degree being essential to work in Mexico, (how did i miss this )I too figured it might be a better idea to start somewhere else- guess I just needed confirmation.

I shall copy this to him and let him decide.

As for why Chihuahua....I believe it's because of how the people there captured his heart while doing missionary training. I think they ( the group) did a lot of work in orphanges and soup kitchens, etc. I suppose he wants to be near them.

My question now is : Will having a lot of experience under your belt change the chance of being able to work and teach in Mexico legally? Or are the degreeless just shit outta luck?

Cheers,

Ant

Ps...I just watched "Once upon a Time in Mexico"....I cannot stop laughing at
"Are you a Mexican??? or a MEXICANT"????



Also, the chihuahua was great, sorry about the tune Ben

[Ben Round de Bloc]

[Antaraaaa]

[thelmadatter]

Yeah but there's just something about bad boys that are soooooo appealing

[Ben Round de Bloc]

[moonraven]

I am a little surprised that one would expect to find work as a teacher in Mexico without a degree. Another example of offensive Third World steretyping, where First World folks think everyone here is illiterate, running around in the buff and pooping over poles out in the lower forty. Give us a break: the logic of having the university degree is that the employer technically cannot hire foreign folks who are unprepared or have skills a Mexican also has.

[ls650]

[moonraven]

Oh? Which countries are those?

[Antaraaaa]

Great: Another thread debating whether people with no degree can be great teachers or not.....

Yawnsville.

I didn't think any of the demeaning things you mentioned......I thought this because I was sure I had read posts here before from people without a degree who were teaching and doing well. I looked back into the past posts, and indeed there were some.

Don't bother getting into one of your lil catfights with me, lol...I am just trying to help a friend out.

As for your feiging ignorance as to where people can work without a degree:

Cheers,

Ant.

[moonraven]

You missed my point. In Mexico there are almost 500-year-old universities, and anti-intellectualism is only the norm in the right wing political sphere--where even most of its proponents have degrees. Ergo, a non-degreed gringo is a drug on the market, not the deux-ex-machina bringing linguistic salvation to the great unwashed.

In no way did I indicate that a non-degreed person would not make a good teacher.

In straight language, I was objecting to your racist stereotyping of Mexicans. And I still am objecting to it.

[Antaraaaa]

Moonraven

I have duly noted your objection.

I have also noted your ever present need to put words into the mouths of others. Are all your usual foes ignoring you? Perhaps they are growing tired of your delusions of persecution at every turn.

Are you so lonely that you now need to manufacture enemies?

I asked a question and then stated clearly why I asked. Not good enough for you? Tough. You think you have the right to toss around labels like "racist" the way you do? Think again. Perhaps you could be a lil more discerning before you rush into using such highly charged language. Your labeling of this question as "racist sterotyping" is an insult to many, including me.

In straight language: you suck.


Cheers,

Ant

Ps....I also noticed you use the term "us" when referring to Mexicans.
Newflash: you aren't Mexican.

[moonraven]

Don't barge into this forum and ask for advice if you don't want to deal with legitimate reactions to your UNCONSCIOUS behavior. Some folks here are just as unconscious as you are, but you cannot expect to disparage a culture and have everyone let you get by with it.