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SHO



Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: VISAS Reply with quote

HI All. My wife and I have applied with NOVA, however because my wife was born in the Phillipines, the NOVA person said that there may be troubles with the Japanese immigration. She moved to canada when she was twelve and moved to the states when she was 22. We both speak fluent english, were both taught english for more than twelve years, both have bachelor degrees. I see nothing in the laws that state anything like what this person said. Does anyone out there have any clue what this guy is talking about? We both would really like to teach in Japan, NOVA was the first and only place that we applied to, and within a couple of days were asked to come in for interviews. We figure it would be a good stepping stone. I'm Just curious as to the facts of his statement. Anything would help I'm sure. Thanks

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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is her nationality still Filipina? Or has she become a naturalized American or Canadian. There is a stigma in Japan that many Filipina women are only trying to get jobs in the sex industry, or they want to come here to work illegally in low paying jobs like maids. This is not the case for you, but it IS an image you will have to face.

She has enough years of English education, but another problem you may be facing is that despite her English education, she did not get it all in Canada or the USA. Some officials might consider her English education in the Phillipines NOT to come from a native English speaking country.

NOVA people are not immigration authorities. Don't rely on them 100% for information related to getting visas. Your wife has a bachelor's degree, presumably from the USA or Canada. That should suffice to get her a work visa, I believe.

If all else fails, and if YOU get a FT job in Japan, she can apply for a dependent visa and special permission to work. It will allow her only PT work, but that's better than nothing, and she can always take in private lessons to supplement that.
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SHO



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. She is a naturalized canadian citizen, married to a US citizen. I realize that there are many stereo-types about many different people in this world, and that is troublesome in my mind. But that is something that my children, and my childrens children, and so on and so forth will have to overcome, just as I.

So you're saying that if they consider her education in the phillipines as not coming from a native english speaking country, then the chances are that she will not get a Visa from the Japanese government? Even though the majority of her english education came from Canada and the United states? Or would it be a hit or miss type of thing, where it depends on the person reviewing the documentation?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So you're saying that if they consider her education in the phillipines as not coming from a native english speaking country, then the chances are that she will not get a Visa from the Japanese government?


I'm saying it's likely, but I'm not an immigration official, and I don't have a lot of experience with people from the Philippines. It could very well be that they require ALL of your education to be from a native English speaking country, from the first day of elementary school. I really don't know.

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Or would it be a hit or miss type of thing, where it depends on the person reviewing the documentation?


Could very well be the case. All I'm saying is, don't rely solely upon your potential employer for immigration related information. Ask immigration.

One more thing, just as an aside...
I don't know how you refer to your wife, but I'd strongly suggest saying she is a Canadian citizen. Period. She is, so just leave it that way until someone asks where she was born and if she is naturalized. It reduces the possible anguish.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Filipinos are considered native English speakers. Yes, their English is excellent, but it is still a second language.

However, in my opinion, the fact her degree is from an English speaking country and she did all her HS education in Canada, I can't see immigration not granting her a work visa.

Why don't you call Japanese immigration and ask them? I would.
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SHO



Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definetly will, just wanted to get some feedback.

Thanks.
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Justin Matthews



Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like Nova is the only large company which will hire teachers without a 4 years degree in Japan. I've tried to find others with no success. Anyone know of others?
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