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Age limit for visas in Mexico?

 
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Sydgirl



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Age limit for visas in Mexico? Reply with quote

Hi there
Just wondering, are there any age restrictions in Mexico for obtaining your working visa?
Cheers
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure there is no maximum age, but if you are only 17 or 18 you're probably out of luck as you should have a university degree.

If you are Doogie Houser I guess you'd be OK.
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Sydgirl



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks..

btw...I wish I was only 17 or 18!!!
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richtx1



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:16 am    Post subject: Not at the upper range, but... Reply with quote

There were protests from foreign governments about non-custodial parents fleeing with their minor children to Mexico a few years ago. As a result, any minor (under 1Cool must have the notarized written permission of both parents (or an official copy of the death certificates, and written permission from his/her legal guardians) to enter the country. Most posters here are single, but teachers coming to work who have children accompanying them need to remember this. Even if the ex- is an uncooperative jerk, you still need the statement.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:30 pm    Post subject: age Reply with quote

richtx is right but I dont know what that has to do with the original question. BTW, if any of you will come down to MX and have minor children visit you - make up a bunch of notarized permission papers with the dates blank in advance. Getting papers notarized here is time-consuming (for some reason they have to be officially translated) and it cost me 230 pesos (~$22 US) to have it done one time. So the last time I was in the States I had 12 documents printed up and signed. My ex (who is not a jerk, thank goodness) has never had any problem using them.

I dont know if there is an age limit on getting a work visa but if you are over 35, please be aware that age works against you here. Age discrimination (as we call it in many Anglo countries) is quite legal here. After 40 and youre almost screwed. However, if youre a foreigner and they really want a foreign teacher (esp short term) and/or you have a specialty they want - they can disregard this.
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: age Reply with quote

thelmadatter wrote:
Age discrimination (as we call it in many Anglo countries) is quite legal here.


Lots of job ads in newspapers state age restrictions: 18 to 35, for example. Although not common in the city where I live, a language school director can legally reject an applicant because of age . . . or gender or nationality or marital status or race or religion or height or color of shoes worn to an interview. However, on the plus side this is a culture that has lots of respect for wisdom that comes with age and experience, and there are many DOSs who seem to prefer hiring more mature teachers. If you're over 35, you probably wouldn't want to work for an employer who prefers to limit hiring to young Ken&Barbie types anyway.

At the university where I teach, the youngest EFL teachers are in their early 30s. However, age discrimination does exist in that non-tenured teachers might be offered tenure if they're 45 or younger but never if they're over 45. The reason is that the university wants to get a minimum of 15 years of teaching out of a person if it's going to provide a pension and other benefits after the teacher retires.
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saraswati



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: age Reply with quote

thelmadatter wrote:
if any of you will come down to MX and have minor children visit you - make up a bunch of notarized permission papers with the dates blank in advance.


If you're an American, another option would be to go to the nearest Consulate or Embassy and ask for their permission form. You aren't required to give specific travel dates, just a year. My ex, who isn't much of a jerk either, signed giving me permission to take my son anywhere in the world til he turns 18.
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richtx1



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: Thanks, thelma... Reply with quote

... for bringing us back to the original issue, after my slight detour (though a few of us second career sorts do have minor children to consider)...

Despite overt age discrimination in the marketplace, I don't see much when it comes to business education, or to those schools hiring teachers as asociados.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject: Age issues Reply with quote

Agreed Richard...in fact, in business circles, being over 30, regardless international business experience, fits the sought after image. Under 25 and experienced is a difficult sell to the suits.

I forgot, I'm supposed to call you...

<ring, ring> that's your phone...pick it up

Guy
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: permission Reply with quote

Thats really interesting to know saraswati. If I go and do this, do they give me some kind of paper? My ex needs to show the airline something official that says I give my permission. Of course checking this out gives me an excuse to head over to Mexico City. Are embassies open on Sat or are they purely a M-F 9-5 sort of thing?
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been working in Mexico for more than 10 years, will turn 60 next month and have never experienced even a whisper of age discrimination. I have seen it applied to Mexicans, though--especially to men when they turn 40.
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saraswati



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: permission Reply with quote

thelmadatter wrote:
Thats really interesting to know saraswati. If I go and do this, do they give me some kind of paper? My ex needs to show the airline something official that says I give my permission. Of course checking this out gives me an excuse to head over to Mexico City. Are embassies open on Sat or are they purely a M-F 9-5 sort of thing?


The consolates and embassies will notarize the permission form; all you, or your ex, have to do is sign it. It costs around $30 USD.

I suggest that you contact the Embassy to check their hours. My guess is that they're only open M-F.
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dangermouse24



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also get the notarized permission forms done by a local public notary in your city. You'll find them all over the place. We had the same problem last year when my sisters came over for the summer. A solicitor in the U.k did them for my mum and then we got a local notary here to do both the permission letters from my dad for around $300 pesos and you'll get them the same day.
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thelmadatter



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: MR Reply with quote

Moonraven, I think we are somewhat insulated from the effects of age discrimination because we are native English speakers and perhaps because we are "gringos" (although I know you are going to deny vigorously that you are)
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Age discrimination Reply with quote

I've seen some instances of age discrimination in the school we place teachers into, but in every case, it not a local director discriminating, but rather, the foreign born HR director (think: Canadian, American, French, etc). That might be an extension of school policy but I've always thought it to be personal preferrence. I see this more in Costa Rica than anywhere else.
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