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Bindair Dundat
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| GabeKessel wrote: |
| The higher the risk, the higher the reward. |
Ah, a common misunderstanding. Actually, the higher the risk, the higher the potential reward.
Just ask those thousands of dot-com paupers.
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spicegirl
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| mmm... and the Nepalese - how American did they look? Just take care of yourselves - don't want to see pix of you on Sky News or CNN. |
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GabeKessel
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, a common misunderstanding. Actually, the higher the risk, the higher the potential reward.
Just ask those thousands of dot-com paupers.
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Well, in this case, you actually have a salary. My friend has been getting some $10,000 a month. The above quote is for starting one's own business not salaried employment. |
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Bindair Dundat
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| GabeKessel wrote: |
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Ah, a common misunderstanding. Actually, the higher the risk, the higher the potential reward.
Just ask those thousands of dot-com paupers.
BD |
Well, in this case, you actually have a salary. My friend has been getting some $10,000 a month. The above quote is for starting one's own business not salaried employment. |
No, Gabe, I think the above is a general principle that applies across the board. It's the same for the stockholders, the salaried employees, and the outsource workers as it is for the owner, except that his potentials of risk and reward are much greater than theirs. That your friend has a salary is very nice, but let's try to remember the downside potential there. The same principle applies to everyone, although there may be a *lucky* s.o.b. here or there who manages to slip through the cracks or to fool some of the people some of the time.
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EFLT
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: Jobs in Iraq |
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Hi all.
Just wanted to confirm that there are several of us willing to take the risk of work in Iraq.
If anyone knows of ELT jobs there, please post! I have also sent AMIDEAST my CV but have been told they have no current prospect there.
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not find out the cost of life, permanent injury and kidnap insurance (running at up to $10,000 a week for a businessman on visit but obvioulsy lower for plebs who'll get a lower payout), and deduct that from your salary, or simply calculate from the premium what they reckon your chances of surviving the contract are. |
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EFLT
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:45 am Post subject: Jobs in Iraq |
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Oy vay, Stephen Jones! Doom and gloom! Dude!, life is a crapshoot, ain't it?! I say go for the high stakes.
Guys, I don't know if I'm missing something, but all searches on the web bring up 'nada' re ELT jobs in Iraq. I wonder if the DLI folks in Texas have that all sewn up? |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Dear EFLT
The reason there are no EFL jobs in Iraq is that the students would be putting their life on the line if they signed up.
If you want to work in Iraq get out your Rambo jacket. There are 15,000 private security guards/aka mercenaries in Iraq (the second largest army after the US and larger than the UK contingent), and they are pulling in an average of $10,000 a month (much to the disgust of the US troops who are running the same risk for $4000 a month). Also automatic weapons, an armor-plated Humvee and a flak jacket do increase your chances of fulfilling the contract in one piece.
Now the troops, who spend most of their time in barracks, have lost over 1,000 since the war started, most of them since the war was declared over by Bush. That works out at an attrition rate of 0.5% to 0.75% per year , and nobody thinks the situation is getting any better. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen,
I think you're wasting your time. The guy obviously has a death wish. Let him fulfill it.
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EFLT
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:36 am Post subject: Iraq |
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SJ,
Your take very much appreciated and intelligently presented --- more than balances out a gratuitously snide comment such as the previous poster's. |
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EFLT
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: Jobs in Iraq |
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Very clever, lots of fun. But I have folks to support and a contract that ends in December, so I am actively seeking a well-paying job in the region. Iraq has all the attendant dangers, yes, but that's a risk I'm willing to take. So ... it'd be great if we could get back to the topic of this thread.
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EFLT
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:45 am Post subject: Jobs in Iraq |
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Hi, Adam. Thanks for the interest.
"Me, I'm a willing passenger on the underground express ..."
I haven't a clue what that means! Can you elaborate?
"If I were you, I'd bite the bullet and retrain if you are that desperate for money and get a real job."
Don't know what your EF/SL experience is, but if you don't think it's a "real job", that's unfortunate. I'm in language-training because I really enjoy it! Have worked in several countries, have learned three languages, have had excellent teaching experiences ... and I want to continue doing what I like and do quite well!
Is your contact in Iraq interested in a dynamic, results-oriented language trainer? Then I'm the guy!
Best,
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KiteBiker
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: if you are interested in Iraq, then see this BLOG ... |
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http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/
from a dentist working in Iraq. Pay special attention to the report on the University in Mosul and the student activity there. |
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meastfreak
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Deal? No? OK then I know a chap in kuwait ( really ) and he is looking for someone to drive a Pajero up to Iraq, with the jingles driving supply trucks, as the comp.any rep. requirements, a driving license, no military training ( although they will give you a 45) and that's about it. You will receive military escorts by the Brits.
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Hell, I'd do that. If the Brits are escorting you, that means you aren't going to nasty parts of Iraq. |
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EFLT
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 12:16 pm Post subject: Jobs in Iraq |
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Just dusting this topic off to ask if anyone has any leads on jobs in Iraq.
Thanks. |
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