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benno · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Fake Mongolia

yes but would you do it for a fuc king living!!!!
thats my point!!!

jeddahteacher · Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 291 Location: Arabia

I did while at graduate school.

To me work done to support yourself and family is honorable.

JT

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

AA, Aha!

So you have a B.A. and an M.A., and a CELTYA, and what not. Do we believe you? Let's say I am not too curious, and i will hold your claims to having a "high" education to your credit.
Because your claims to them are just about the only good thing we can find in your favour.
I am not interestedf in your persona, body; I am interested in other, more interesting things. You may be good at regurgitating linguistic theories; I am interested in applied linguistics and in life inside and outside classrooms. You?

So far I have never seen any thread or post by you that gladdened anyone's heart. You have never begun a friendly discussion. YOu always barge in by berating others. You are an antisocial churl. Maybe a skinhead! Your lecturing on things in which you have no experience has painted you in an extremist corner; it's hard to imagine you have ever been let loose on unsuspecting Asian students! You are an impossibly nihilist, negativist, demagogue I can't imagine you have ever rubbed shoulders with fellow teachers.
There - believe what you want, and I believe what I know. As for you, I believe nothing except what I know about you. And that is: you don't belong to any school.
You don't even belong to any country, people or place. You are a loner, a Steppenwolf, a character without any graces of whatever kind.

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:24 pm Post subject:

benno · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Fake Mongolia

still one nil to Asia traveller!!!!!

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:55 am Post subject:

I think I'm up by 2 now, benno dear.

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

No, AA, you are not! You are a zero. Zero-to-one.
YTou need your CELTA to practise cultural sensitivity in your dealings with other forumites.

Your creds are not bad, but they give you no right to sagger around and to brag. Not in front of me!

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:55 am Post subject:

Roger, I use the intercultural communication practice that I learned in CELTA to respect the culture in which I'm living and teaching. If the culture contributes to difficult situations, it's our job to overcome those difficulties with creative methods and understanding.

You, on the other hand, uniformly BLAME the culture in which you live and teach for any failures that you might have. That's been my chief complaint with you and your constant whinging about your Chinese students, their teachers and their parents.

In books about intercultural communication, your behaviour is described as "denial", "defense" and "ethnocentrism". Needless to say, these are at the wrong end of the spectrum for traits that teachers should have.

I hope you see the difference. That's why I've suggested that you take the CELTA and perhaps the CELTAYL extension. Dealing with young children in another culture really does require specific training and understanding.

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:57 am Post subject:

Roger, may we know your credentials?

What's fair is fair... no?

benno · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Fake Mongolia

jeddahteacher · Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 291 Location: Arabia

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/Doc-Jews-Holocaust-Genocide/RevisionistLogicOnAuschwitz.htm

Now the reader of Gilbert, Laqueur, and Butz can make a very simple determination. He is being told that (a) in the period May 1942 to June 1944, those interested in such matters had no information of mass exterminations at Auschwitz and (b) mass exterminations at Auschwitz could not have been concealed from the world for any significant length of time. Since he is hearing the same story from both sides then, by a process of inference necessary to those who want to form an opinion but do not have the time or means to become historians, he should assume both claims true. There was no information of mass exterminations at Auschwitz during the relevant period, and mass exterminations at Auschwitz would not have been kept secret. Therefore, there were no mass exterminations at Auschwitz.

The conclusion is inescapable and requires only elementary logic. It is comparable to the syllogism: "I see no elephant in my basement; an elephant could not be concealed from sight in my basement; therefore, there is no elephant in my basement." - ARTHUR R. BUTZ

Sinobear · Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 1269 Location: Purgatory

What's the point of all this? 2 Over Lee wanted Talkdoc (China) to get involved in this forum...but obviously he is too intelligent to do so. I'm just curious enough to put this forward: I've watched this ongoing battle between JT, 2 Over Lee, an an odd slugfest between Roger and AT with Benno as an impromtou referee. I can not for the life of me see how this all relates to a "general discussion" vis a vis teaching English around the globe. You've got one person who posts links to various articles that are sponsored by white supremists, but who does not (wisely) implicate himself directly by espousing the same views directly. There's another poster who will try to get everyone to question JT's validity as a poster (he has the right until he directly contravenes the posting rules - no matter if you agree with him or would like to see his demise).
We can see two other posters having a public verbal brawl over qualifications. I see it (and yes, it's only my humble opinion) this way - no matter whose pecker is bigger, you're still only having a public pi**ing contest, and if this was literal as opposed to just words, it would be riddiculous. Two grown men bickering like children on a public forum. Really.
And don't either one of you come back with, "Well! He started it!"
We should all be mature enough to know when we're being baited (I sure learned my lesson in the China>Off Topic forums).
Benno, being a good referee is knowing when to say "enough is enough".

That's what I think.

Back to your regularly scheduled post.

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Lubek dear .... You are such a Philistine! Tsk Tsk. Bet you even have the foreskin to match your unsheared temperament!

cheers!
ex
P.S. Atlas, are you enjoying all this?

benno · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Fake Mongolia

sino bear yes you are right!!!! Very Happy

enough all ready!!!!!

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject:

About me, Luddy/Lubby spits out the following: