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Beetle



Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:33 am    Post subject: Oldies ? Reply with quote

Hello everyone.

I'd appreciate any advice on the following. I was wondering about upper age restrictions for working in Japan.

I have BA and DELTA and taught in Thailand, Hong Kong & China (mostly in government schools). I'd like to teach in Japan, but have heard rumours about age prejudice. As I've just turned the big 'four zero', it could be a waste of time (even though fitter than most 20 something year olds).

Was thinking of taking MA TESOL; but then will be even older. Any thoughts?

Thanks
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are not too old, but will feel really overqualified to teach in eikaiwas (language schools). Without a masters, uni jobs will be almost impossible to get. Maybe you could work in a HS, but am not sure what they look for, others here will know.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my first job here at 41. It was a conversation school that kept me for over 3 years. So, as Gordon said, you are not too old.

I'm in a private HS now. They usually take people only if they have experience teaching in Japan, so the best advice is to get a conversation school job for a year, then apply to high schools.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:51 am    Post subject: Re: Oldies ? Reply with quote

Beetle wrote:
Hello everyone.

I'd appreciate any advice on the following. I was wondering about upper age restrictions for working in Japan.

I have BA and DELTA and taught in Thailand, Hong Kong & China (mostly in government schools). I'd like to teach in Japan, but have heard rumours about age prejudice. As I've just turned the big 'four zero', it could be a waste of time (even though fitter than most 20 something year olds).

Was thinking of taking MA TESOL; but then will be even older. Any thoughts?

Thanks


For what its worth both Glenski and I are in our forties and teaching at high school and university respectively.


Having done an Med in TESOL myself I think a little education never hurt anyone, but you have to weign up the cost of getting one with your expected or future income. A degree may cost you $15-20,000 to complete, you may have to do it while you are working full time and it may take a couple of years to pay off.

A lot depends on your job goals and where you see yourself in 5 years. An MA is necessary for university work and some schools even ask for a phD as well. I recommend doing an MA for professional development but that's just my personal opinin

At NOVA there are teachers in their 40's and 50's but its a question of whether you would like being ordered around by a 25-year old 'kid' and whether you would enjoy the office culture and politics of one of those big chain schools.
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Beetle



Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gordon and Glenski.

I can relate to your comments on conversation schools - I've noticed similar in countries - but as said it could be a way to start. I'll consider my options for after present contract .

In Hong Kong, most schools prefered 'PGCE' (even elementary), but some accepted me without. I hope same in Japan.

all the best
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