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benno
Joined: 28 Jun 2004
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Location: Fake Mongolia
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has anyone seen "euro trip", recommended, a typical american view of europe....the dutch are into bondage, english talk funny and are hooligans, the germans are nazis, the itialians love the pope
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while that was a terrible movie (that bombed in theaters as well), those stereotypes are more prominent in britain than they are in the US. i've actually lived in britain, so most critiques the brits (especially english) throw around are nearly the same for their own country. for example, the british movie 'kevin and perry go large' showed germans in ibiza as a bunch of nazis. most english i've met dislike germans and germany in general. i was there when they wanted to build an extension of the tube under the thames but they were afraid to dig because of old german bombs. for nearly a week i heard people cursing germany every time the story was mentioned. i have a ton(ne) of stories like this but you get the point.
and, of course, football hooligans are england's most famous exports. i recall in inverness, scotland watching the beeb and seeing footage of the riot in brussels after a match. even friendly matches between cities get violent. i bartended in barnet and there was a brawl after a bunch of twinks from watford showed up after a barnet v. watford game. we also kept broomhandles behind the bar for the really violent games, like cardiff. i learned to stay indoors after a football match. luckily i can fake a good irish accent.
and when someone thinks 'amsterdam' they don't think of tulips and canals, especially not in britain. we all know why people go there. it ain't for the gouda. besides, most americans don't know enough about holland to know about the red light district.
how about that little spat in the EU a few months ago, where the italians were calling the german ambassador a nazi (concentration camp guard was i think the exact wording) and the germans called the italian PM a godfather? hurt feelings all around.
the godfather is my favorite movie, though.
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but american humour is dead pan, a terrible movie which makes you want to beat the *beep* out of a few w(Y)anks, like the trainspotting scene!!!!!!!
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what was that about hooliganism? just proof that brits can dish it out but can't take it!   |
ok fair point seth
well made
actually you are right
but you know there is more to europe than those sterotypes
in holland its all the foreigners that go crazy with the drugs and the sex, the dutch themselves actually prefer a quiet beer in the local
the germans have been trying for years to rid themselves of their nazi past, they have very strong anti-racist laws
hooliganism is a problem in england but its not a way of life, not anymore anyway
yes you are right but their is much more to europe than those terrible stereotypes
and im not british, by the way! |
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ContemporaryDog
Joined: 21 May 2003
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Location: Wuhan, China
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| I think we British are victims of our own hype sometimes. If you look at the igures for arrests in Euro 2004, arrests of English fans were actually far below those for fans from Denmark or Sweden. Yet we always associate those fans with being mild mannered and not at all hooliganish. |
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joe greene
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Public Service Announcement:
Never, ever, ever call an individual from the American South a 'Yank'. He will load his 12-gauge (Southerners are well-armed) and blow your head clear off your shoulders. |
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Magoo
Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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Location: Wuhan, China
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Public Service Announcement:
Never, ever, ever call an individual from the American South a 'Yank'. He will load his 12-gauge (Southerners are well-armed) and blow your head clear off your shoulders. |
Yessiree! Made that mistake, once or twice.  (I ducked).
I agree with Mr Dog, on this one. Look at the Turks and the Germans. For a long time, we English tried to make the Scottish fans look like the villains, despite our having a far worse record (take note, Jocks; a Geordie is defending you. Don't hold your collective breath for the next time  ). |
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Ben Round de Bloc
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| joe greene wrote: |
Public Service Announcement:
Never, ever, ever call an individual from the American South a 'Yank'. He will load his 12-gauge (Southerners are well-armed) and blow your head clear off your shoulders. |
I've never heard Southerners shorten the word Yankee to Yank when referring to people from the northern states, although for a long time I thought the complete word was damnyankee. |
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poro
Joined: 04 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: If ignorance is bliss.... |
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| Believe me, go down to Texas and experience for yourself all of the urban 'myths'. You will have people with college degrees ask you what part of Sweden Africa is in. |
That would be even more stupid than it looks, CDD, because according to a survey by National Geographic, 84% of Americans do not even know where Sweden is! 
However, they are not the only geographically challenged people around, and a shocking 72% of Brits can't find it either!!!
Here's a link, so you can check out how ignorant the rest of us are (and to prove I do NOT have an agenda of US-bashing - on the other hand, I would certainly take a swipe at GWB any time)
http://geosurvey.nationalgeographic.com/geosurvey/templates/answer_16_16_1.html |
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