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moonraven
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I would suggest getting some teaching experience first. I have been teaching since 1968--off and on--as well as training teachers for the past 10 years, and I say this because most people are simply not cut out to be teachers.
Why invest in a graduate degree that you feel obligated to use but because you hate teaching you are, therefore, miserable? Does that make sense--even on this forum? |
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dmb
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| moonraven wrote: |
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Why invest in a graduate degree that you feel obligated to use but because you hate teaching you are, therefore, miserable? Does that make sense--even on this forum? |
Makes alot of sense. |
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moonraven
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah? I see you didn't bother to tell us WHY it makes sense to do that. As usual, you make NO sense at all. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan
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| marblez wrote: |
My teacher wasn't ESL specific, it was generalized to secondary school teaching in North America. The reality is that you most likely will NOT be hired in local school districts if you are overqualified.
But I think I'm different from many posters, I probably won't ever move to an overseas country, I'd like to have a teaching career here and use TESL as another teachable subject. |
Ahhh, well this is a bit different, then.
MAs in teaching ESL/EFL are at least practical in terms of employment ability. When I was finishing my BA (English Literature and Music History) the English literature profs were going around telling the people with the highest likelyhood of applying, being accepted and completeing an MA in English to NOT GET ONE (Music History Profs, OTOH- not so much because Music History was a BA, not a B. Mus/ BFA and so all sorts of "should we let BA Music History students in or only B.Mus, BFA graduates?" questions- upshot university says one thing, does something else.) . In English, the reason being was that there just weren't, and aren't, many jobs, no where near enough to make it a worth-while endevour (plus, with an MA in English you still cannot actually teach at a secondary school in my province, Ontario, because there are far more than enough English Lit teachers with B.Eds. Maybe a high school Creative Writing teacher with an MA in Creative Writing or English and the right kind of publications, but that again is more practical than English Literature by itself in that it is a hands on thing).
Ruling out going overseas makes a huge difference. I know lots of people who did a one-year university or college TESL certificate with the intention of staying in the province to teach (the one year gets you certified by the province for private language schools) but because the pay is so very low, and there are so few jobs, a lot of people either go overseas after all, or go into something else. And likewise, there are more than a few people who have been teaching overseas and desperately want to return to their home countries, who can't or won't because of the dire job situation. |
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