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T-Bird
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: Dragon Recruiters |
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Anyone familiar with these guys? Heard some nasty stuff. Has anyone dealt with them?
I know first timers ask stupid questions and the general warning is to stay away from any recruiter, but from what I see it doesn't look too bad. They offer free accomodation and you are allowed to tutor privately after hours. Minimum pay is 50 000 NTD.
Thanx. |
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Fortigurn
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 390
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think a good rule of thumb is to read 'minimum pay' and then take off about 20% to get an idea of what you're more likely to get as a 'minimum pay'. |
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matchstick_man
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 244 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:15 am Post subject: |
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I have a number of South Arican friends who came over after using them. What fortigun said is correct. However some of my frieds have stayed in their jobs for a number years. The jobs tend to be in backwater towns for chain schools....a good oppurtunity if you are here only to save but not so good if you want a social life with other foreigners.
It may be a good deal if you are South African and Afrikaans speaking rather than a native speaker. It can be a good start. I belive there is another thread here about these recruiters. |
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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wombat
Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 134
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Dragon Recruiters do in fact have schools of their own, contrary to the advice that I posted on the earlier thread.
Of course the normal warnings apply as far as dealing with recruiters. Past that though, I would think that Dragon Recruiters is as good as any. I haven't heard anything terrible about them.
Check out the deal. Ask lots of questions. Visit the school and speak with current or past teachers. If everything sounds fine then go for it. |
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T-Bird
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:05 am Post subject: Dragon Recruiters |
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Thanx for your input guys. I seem to get the impression that the best option still is to get to Taiwan first and look for a job there. What would be the best time to come? Late January or early February 2005 ? I am not sure when Chinese Newyear is celebrated , but understand that schools close during this time. Is it worth the trouble to start searching for a job during the holidays, or should I wait untill the schools reopen?
SSETH, I had a look at what you suggested. Thanx. You will definitively be hearing from me soon. |
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Ki
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 475
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Beware of another "consultant" agency that has been advertising on Dave's. Can't help you with Dragon though.
Mid-Feb is probably the best time to arrive, immediately after Chinese New Year. Good luck, (especially with the recruiter). |
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TaoyuanSteve

Joined: 05 Feb 2003 Posts: 1028 Location: Taoyuan
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Dragon Recruiters |
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T-Bird wrote: |
SSETH, I had a look at what you suggested. Thanx. You will definitively be hearing from me soon. |
It's up to you, really, but you may want to reconsider. Read around a bit to find out about this individual and his supposed organization. |
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T-Bird
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject: Dragon Recruiters |
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Thanx again Ki and TaoyuanSteve!
More than ever it seems that the best option is still to fly over and just wing it.....
The whole idea of boarding a plane without a job waiting on the other side of the world, is still very difficult to digest. I have been in the same boring (but stable) profession for the last 9 years. (Mantra to self :"DON"T freak out! DON"T freak out!!)
But when in Rome.............?
Just relax and enjoy the ride I suppose.
I'm somewhere in my early thirties (although vanity tells me I look years younger!!!!!!). Will this impact negatively on finding work? I am a newbie anyway.... Hope not.
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kop
Joined: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 2
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:04 am Post subject: Unhappy with dragon recruiters |
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Hi T-Bird
I went out to Taiwan a few years ago with Dragon (from SA, they started here, the dude is from here.) As far as i know they now have a school in Koishung and like i said in my other post under "scams" this leads me to believe that they must have done something right at some point, i just never saw it.
My Boyfriend and I are actually still trying to get our money back from them on the principal of the thing, ill send you the full sopp story personally fyi.
best of luck if its too late! as everyone else has already told you, best not to use a recruiter FULL STOP. |
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Aristotle

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Posts: 1388 Location: Taiwan
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:12 am Post subject: |
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this leads me to believe that they must have done something right at some point, i just never saw it.
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What they did right was lie cheat and steal from both their students and teachers until they had enough money to open their own schools.
There is no real oversight for the ESL business or any other on Taiwan. What little oversight there is exist for the purpose of collecting bribes. It is a buyer beware island. The local people have been subjected to this for so long that they don't even notice it. Corruption is an integral part of the local Taiwanese culture.
Good luck,
A.
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T-Bird
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: Dragon Deceivers |
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kop & Aristotle
Dragon's contact email - [email protected] (their South African adress) no longer exists.
I suspect their CapeTown office went bust - so maybe there is justice
after all.
After reading all your posts I hope this is the case.
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ContemporaryDog
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 1477 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Is this the same Dragon Recruitment that is based in Shanghai, China?
Does anyone know? |
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ContemporaryDog
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 1477 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Just to ask the question again, in case anyone knows... |
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clark.w.griswald
Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 2056
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes, it is.
You will see in their recruitment information that they are indeed one and the same.
They also have some schools here in Taiwan.
Considering their exposure to the market they seem to be okay. |
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