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richie122 · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 101 Location: Seattle, Wa, USA

I'm headed to China in a while, and in the contract I will receive 3500 rmb a month, as well as accomidations. I'm just wondering is that enough money that I'll be able to actually save money? keep in mind i'm pretty young and like to go out a lot.

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

Did you even do your homework before accepting the job?

3500 RMB a month is enough to survive, yes. But why would you work for 3500 when you can work for 6000 to 9000 a month?

I am assuming you are under 22 with no university degree?

Also, if you are eaning 3500, your boss is probably laughing himself all the way to the bank.....

Why anyone accepts such low wages is beyond me.

goeastyoung(ish)man! · Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 139 Location: back in US

How many hours will you be teaching? Will you have other time obligations (i.e. office hours)? Where will you be teaching? Shanghai? Hogwallar? What is a good time going out for you? Disco? Restaurant? Hostess bar? Pub?

Joachim · Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 311 Location: Brighton, UK

Richie,

In a word, no.

3500 RMB is pitiful, try to find something else.

Yu · Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 1219 Location: Shanghai

3500 is enough if you want to live like the Chinese do... And they can still save half of their measly income. I make 3500 a month plus living accomodations. I have another job, and it has not been enough money (also I am trying to support three people.) Fortunately my husband got a job. Another FT here is making the same as me and she says 3500 is plenty of money... she spends a lot of time at home as well.

ShapeSphere · Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 386

Richie,

As you can see from the previous posts - 3500 RMB is way too low. Shockingly low. It's novices like you who cause problems for the other teachers like us here. I have experience and qualifications and still get offers as low as 100 RMB per hour. If I don't take it, then some loser will.

The best you can do is lie to the school and say due to 'personal reasons' you will not be joining the school. Then do your homework and find a better job. I shouldn't worry about lying to the Chinese; they will do it to you continually if you come here. When in Rome, etc.

Yu says if you want to live like Chinese then it's fine. The Chinese idea of entertainment is sitting on the pavement playing games, or flying a kite, or sitting outside and watching the world go by. All involve no expenditure and would be too dull for you.

For heaven's sake people - stop f*cking up the job market. Wake up.

GeminiTiger · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:39 am Post subject:

ShapeSphere · Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 386

Oh dear.

Gemini Tiger returns with his rather flawed reasoning. It's a nice touch to try to call me a flaming troll after your antics in "The Wall, The Illusion".

Since when has expressing a strong opinion been flaming & trolling?
The word 'novice' is not obscene. My plea to stop f*cking up the job market is exactly that. And wake up - is generally considered a call to - wake up.

You're a novice as well GT and it's best to leave the advice to people who know what they are talking about. Your dismal past record on this site has demonstrated your lack of knowledge of all things China. You will definitely get a wake up call when you come here.

You don't even live in China!

Get real.

Norman Bethune · Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 731

Roger · Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138

I find those replies bordering on the arrogant, and the question by the original poster was not very intelligent either. He failed to tell us what he has got to offer his Chinese employer and his students; if you are just going to be a talking monkey then, by all means, 3500 is fairly enough.

The national minimum pay has been set at RMB 2200, and you CAN live on that fairly well although you can definitely NOT party, drink a STARBUCK'S coffee or even have a McDonald's meal more than once in a long while.
But 3500 is quite a bit more, and it is a decentt a public school. You won't get much more from a public school anyway, except in the rich provinces where life is more expensive.

Those trolls who mentioned amounts double and more are trying to work you up; you can get more if you work for a mismanaged so-called 'ttraining centre' with ever changing work loads, schedules, no fixed holiday or day off and a lot of unfriendly comments from your so-called "customers" that pay to see a white face who they don't respect nor take seriously.
In kindergartens too you stand to make considerably more money - but as a 22-year old I doubt you have the stamina and understanding to guide preschoolers.

Also,