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goeastyoung(ish)man!
Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: value of law degree? |
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Hello,
I am considering Thailand to teach English and after reading many threads in this forum, it sounds like the best way to find a decent job is to just land in country and knock on doors. I would like to get the best pay and best conditions possible. I have a bachelors, and a TEFL certificate but also a law degree from the US (in good shape, rarely used). My question to the experts is: will the law degree help in obtaining a better job or higher pay? It helped in China where sheepskins mean everything.
Ideally, I think I would prefer a university job, but aside from the Tefl, I don't have a background in Education, English, Linguistics etc. (My bachelors was in French.) Alternatively, would such a degree be in demand in other business settings in Thailand? I don't wish to practice law.
Any well intentioned advice appreciated. |
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Sheep-Goats
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:14 am Post subject: Re: value of law degree? |
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| goeastyoung(ish)man! wrote: |
Ideally, I think I would prefer a university job, but aside from the Tefl, I don't have a background in Education, English, Linguistics etc. (My bachelors was in French.) Alternatively, would such a degree be in demand in other business settings in Thailand? I don't wish to practice law.
Any well intentioned advice appreciated. |
Your law degree would be of interest to people trying to learn legal English -- and you'll be pleased to hear that lawyers are often motivated to do so and willing to spend good cash on it. They also easy to find -- just go directly to their offices with a nice brochure you've printed up about yourself and what you can teach them. If you don't know much about teaching (yet), teach some business English classes on the weekend for any old language school in Bangkok before searching out the privates.
If the degree is an MA you may be able to teach in a law department of a university here. If it's a BA your BA in french will be just as valuable to the Thais -- which means you'll be able to get a university job but will have a little competition. Keep in mind that universities pay horribly here and require you to punch a clock and be on campus about 40 hours a week (someone will post in this thread to tell you that you can just ignore all of that and do whatever you want -- but that's certainly not the case for many universities, and/or if you're planning to stick around for more than a term), and as such most qualified teachers aren't in them.
If your degree is an MA the best you can probably hope for is an additional 5000 B on top of your normal montly pay (about 25 to 30 k at most universities), but you're more likely to get a bonus 2000 or so. They value degrees related to English teaching more highly here than they do in China, but they do so by paying less for unrelated degrees, not by paying more for related ones. This salary package should be compared to most/any highschool or language school, where you'll probably start at around 40k.
I doubt your law degree will be useful outside of teaching, but you never know.
It's been said that Thailand is a waste of a degree, and to some extent, that's true. If you're going to be here for the long run then a degree will be worth it -- for a visit you won't reap that many rewards. |
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goeastyoung(ish)man!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks, Sheep-Goats. That was the kind of reply I was hoping for. Still haven't figured it out yet, but that helps. |
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Placebo
Joined: 19 Nov 2004
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Location: Bangkok
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:33 am Post subject: |
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This might be of interest for you...
Job: English Editor/English Instructor
School: Baker & McKenzie Limited
Province: Bangkok
Tel: 02 636 2000
Email: [email protected]
Info: Baker & McKenzie Limited is a multi-cultural, global law firm serving clients needs in every major commercial and financial center. Established in 1977, the Bangkok office is a full service corporate law firm. As the largest international law firm in Bangkok, with over 100 lawyers and a total support staff of nearly 200, the Firm serves a full range of domestic, governmental, regional and multi-national clients in Thailand and around the region. *************************************************************************** Urgently Required: English Editor/Instructor The main responsibilities of this position include - the review and editing of legal agreements and correspondence - preparation of self-directed study materials and - teaching English classes to both legal and support staff Qualifications: - native speaker of English from the U.S., U.K. or Australian - Bachelor�s degree (or higher) in a related field - verifiable experience in document editing - an English teaching qualification - significant experience in teaching English to adult professionals in Thailand This is a full-time position for which a long-term commitment to living and working in Bangkok and providing a high quality service to our staff is required.
It was just posted recently! Starting salary is over 50 grand. |
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